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Triangle Theory- The Breakdown of Natural PUA
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Author:  Mr.Confident [ Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Triangle Theory- The Breakdown of Natural PUA
Triangle Theory is an attempt to make PUA into a science.
The philosophy behind the triangle: Everyone has a natural PUA in them. You just need to expand on all points of the triangle and you; your own personality can be your pick up tool. So when people go and ask you how you picked that girl up… you can tell them “I was just being myself.” :wink:

Every Natural PUA has a solid Triangle. Every Master PUA has a solid Triangle, Every PUA has a triangle. The caliber of everyone’s triangle can differ.

The Triangle of PUA revolves around three traits that trigger an emotional response from a girl:
-Confidence
-Sense of Humor
-Body Language

These are considered the core values of the game. You must have a strong basis in these areas to have solid game. All these areas can produce positive or negative emotional responses from girls.

Positve Triangles have positive responses from girls and Negative Triangles have negative responses from girls.
In short AFC have negative triangles.
A positive response is defined as an IOI, leaning in, good body language.. etc you get the idea. A negative response is the inverse of that.

Have you ever noticed all these routines can fall into one of these categories? DHV, Neg, Disqualifier, Kino. Everything falls on a point of the triangle, or between two points on the triangle. A routine's purpose- Trigger positive Reponses from a girl
Look at the mystery method, David D, and Gambler .
Point: The triangle is the foundation of pick-up. The basic Triangle of PUA branches out into more intricate areas into smaller triangles within your basic triangle.
The triangle can be seen two ways.

1st way- you can have a triangle within your triangle. The more triangles you have within your triangle the more intricate your game is, the more advanced steps you have. There is an infinite amount of triangles you can have.
Examples on how body language branches out: more specific body language cues, better voice tone, working out. Everything builds

2nd way- Finding at which point your game leans toward too. For example for all of you who have seen Gamber in action (in stealth attraction), you would see that his game is in high regards to body language. So his game leans toward the body language part of the triangle. (Not to say that he isn’t good in all areas, he is just really damn good at the body language aspect of things."
So find which area your lacking in the triangle and work on it.

The game is changing. The Community is expanding. Soon girls will have seen a lot of the routines done on them before, thus leaving routine gaming scarce. Harness your inner game. Expand your triangle. Balance out your game. Learn the fundamentals. In pro athletics, no matter what sport is basics are the key to everything. The art of pick up should not be any different.
I support natural PUA, your game will literally last a life time. All you got to do is train yourself to harness your personality. It is 2/3 inner game and 1/3 outer game.

This is the basic theory of PUA, we all don’t have to be mystery, we can be ourselves and it all starts with confidence.

Comments and critiques are highly appreciated

~Mr.Confident
Author:  Pinocchio [ Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:36 pm ]
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I don't think natural game needs to be broken down so much. I love to simplify, so my breakdown looks something like this:

1. Action
2. Calibration (comes as a direct result of action)

This works much better, because it also includes those people who are great with women, but may not have the body language, or whatever, down.
Author:  C1PH3R [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:30 am ]
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I think that you are on the right track there, Mr.Confident.
Author:  Mr.Confident [ Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:30 pm ]
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I don't think natural game needs to be broken down so much. I love to simplify, so my breakdown looks something like this:

1. Action
2. Calibration (comes as a direct result of action)

This works much better, because it also includes those people who are great with women, but may not have the body language, or whatever, down.
I think it does to an extent. I'll try to explain why also. You see if you natural game with the triangle you should be able to have a natural calibration. Calibration is important when it comes to routines because you do not want to sound like a robot when you are talking to the girl. If you are natural gaming it should not be a problem.

However do not misunderstand. The triangle is the area you should work on to improve natural game. You should still follow the PUA formula for approaching and closing. Over time things will come naturally though.

For example.

Use your opener.

Keep the triangle in mind. (Strong Body language, Confidence, Humor) ~Attraction Creator.

Use C&F for all shit tests

get rapport + kino

then Close (This is a general idea of how to approach, my style at least... If you want more info on this. Check other parts of the site)

The Triangle is how the foundation for creating an emotional response from a girl. You need Rapport to create an impression on her. Attraction and Impressions (AI) are two different things. I find that AI are the one two punch for natural game.

* Note some girls (The party girls in general) do not want or need any rapport to hook up with due to daddy issues and what not. So if you are sarging a party girl you do not need to build and impression. Just attraction



~Mr.Confident
Author:  Pinocchio [ Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:15 pm ]
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That's fair enough but it's not natural game.
Author:  Mr.Confident [ Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:39 pm ]
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That's fair enough but it's not natural game.
Care to explain what natural game is?
Author:  Pinocchio [ Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:25 pm ]
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That's fair enough but it's not natural game.
Care to explain what natural game is?
Well I guess it is just my definition, but focusing on building rapport, or doing an opener is unnatural. Using a formula or a structure is unnatural.
There may be times when there is rapport, or you might be a little cocky, but that is the by-product of what you're doing, it should never be the goal.

More and more, natural game to me is about switching off that neo-cortical part of the brain and just letting nature do it's thing. I'll be honest, unapologetic, and always escalating. I'm not always extremely blunt with people, but I don't hide my intentions and I'm not doing anything just to get them to like me.

To put it simply, it's about not giving a fuck what she thinks is charming, funny, or good non-verbal communication. It's about what you want, not her. When you're talking to a girl that you genuinely like, and you're just being yourself, the body language, the confidence, the sense of humor, all that shit, fixes itself.

You're dead right that your "Triangle" is important. I just think it's missing the point. All those things are the "result of", NOT the "path to".
Author:  Mr.Confident [ Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:15 am ]
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That's fair enough but it's not natural game.
Care to explain what natural game is?
Well I guess it is just my definition, but focusing on building rapport, or doing an opener is unnatural. Using a formula or a structure is unnatural.
There may be times when there is rapport, or you might be a little cocky, but that is the by-product of what you're doing, it should never be the goal.

More and more, natural game to me is about switching off that neo-cortical part of the brain and just letting nature do it's thing. I'll be honest, unapologetic, and always escalating. I'm not always extremely blunt with people, but I don't hide my intentions and I'm not doing anything just to get them to like me.

To put it simply, it's about not giving a fuck what she thinks is charming, funny, or good non-verbal communication. It's about what you want, not her. When you're talking to a girl that you genuinely like, and you're just being yourself, the body language, the confidence, the sense of humor, all that shit, fixes itself.

You're dead right that your "Triangle" is important. I just think it's missing the point. All those things are the "result of", NOT the "path to".
I see were you are coming from and agree to an extent. However Opening is part of natural game. How would you talk to a girl if you didn't open her? Over time a person's game will develop were he will have his "own set" of openers" ~style wise.

What I was trying to say is. There is formula to Pick up. What you need to get good at & how to use what you have are two different things.

I would have to disagree about the rapport thing. I think building rapport is a natural way for humans to mingle. While each one of us will have a different natural pick up style. and your right all that stuff will fix it's self when your talking to a girl (body, sense of humor, etc..) but only if you work on it. If you don't know jack about any of those things they wont fix them selves.

Once you work on them. You then have the skills to natural game. The rest is about the approach. For example: My objective is to kill someone. Starting off I don't have the proper tools. You give me a sword so now I am well equipped. However, You do not know how to properly use that sword in battle. same thing with taking a approach with the triangle. Eventually it will become second nature with learning the proper approach. Like fighting, or doing a sport you know the rules but you need to learn the proper fighting stances and techniques.

Our views differ. I think the triangle gives you the "path to" and getting the girl is a "result of" the triangle. I guess this came down to our experience in the natural game field.
Author:  LocoPuaBr [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:54 pm ]
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Kudos to Mr. Confident for one of the best posts i've read. Really made me give a second thought on the way I was approaching pick up.

Pinocchio is also to be thanked for a giving a solid second opinion on the subject. Discussing topics like this is what makes the community grow and get better.

Imo, becoming a natural should be the goal of everyone, and not learning all of the canned material.
Author:  C1PH3R [ Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:14 pm ]
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Imo, becoming a natural should be the goal of everyone, and not learning all of the canned material.
I agree heavily with Loco.



In my opinion PUA isn't just a way to get with girls, but a way to become a better person. To become confident in yourself and shine in social situations.
Author:  Mr.Confident [ Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:42 pm ]
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Imo, becoming a natural should be the goal of everyone, and not learning all of the canned material.
I agree heavily with Loco.



In my opinion PUA isn't just a way to get with girls, but a way to become a better person. To become confident in yourself and shine in social situations.
Exactly my thoughts! PU is a good way to get a healthy life style.
Author:  20sixRooted [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:44 am ]
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I like this
simple and to the point
I never really thought about intricate inner game was but wouldn't it be ineffective if all your game was centered at one point of the triangle? kind of like putting all your eggs in one basket.
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