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Author:  anthonypham [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:54 am ]
Post subject:  What went wrong? Pls comment, since I am not objective anymo
Hey guys,

I have been studying PUA-skills for a half year already and had some successes and failures. Still sometimes I hesitate to open, but when I open I am good in making it a fun conversation. The other problem I have is to convert the conversation into k-closing/sexual.

I just came back from a club, sarging girls. The last set was pretty good. My friends are given me thumbs up, I was convinced i was k-closing her. But i didn't.
Can you guys see what I can do better the next time.

I opened with my wingman a set, with two girls.
My opener was: 'what do you think of the service here". I order a beer, and get a dirty glass"....blablabal
The routine was good. Negging was good (teased her she is old, mean, ignoring target). My wingwan left, since I am very dominant in sets. Kino was good. She kino-ed me back. I was showing DHV, by disqualifying myself. Had a good story to improve more DHV.

I left the set, and after a while she was looking for eye-contact with me. An AFC approached her, and I was saving her. Now I put my arms around her waist. No problem. I kissed her on the cheecks, no problem. Then I hold her hands, and she was ok. After a while she let go (bad sign). I saw a twinkle in her eyes, we were looking in each other eyes for a long time, several times, SHe smiled at me many times. Lots of IOI's, still I didn't k-close her!

What is going on? :)
Author:  Don Draper [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:48 am ]
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You tell me.

I mean you had intense eye contact sessions. And she was giving you the permission to kiss her.

Just a case of your not pulling the trigger.

Made me think of that "Pick Up Artist" series episode in which that guy was trying to kiss close a stripper in the limo and he had all the interest signs from her and Mystery, Matador and J-Dog sitting in the van shouting "Pull the trigger!" over and over. :wink:
Author:  Mr Archer [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:12 am ]
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You took too long to act.

Based on what you say, she was waiting for you to kiss her. Hell, you probably could've taken her home with you.
Author:  anthonypham [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:02 am ]
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Thanks guys :)

After a good sleep, and sober right now, I can see that I didn't pull the trigger yesterday night. Although opening, DHV, strong frame is no problem, still sometimes I chicken out at the most important moment....
Author:  JustAsk [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:19 pm ]
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Hi! I might be a new member here, but I'm trying to get into this stuff here. Anyway, while looking around, you'll see there is not so much to find about actualy going over to the kiss. I had this problem also before I even heard about PUA.

One very important component in getting a kiss is time. Don't go over to a girl and say 'hi, i like you' and try to kiss. But don't go over to a girl and wait the whole evening.

In your set: the answer is the second last sentence of your post: "Lots of IOI's, still I didn't k-close her!" That's the problem, YOU didn't. She wanted... It seems you had a very good set of IOI's, find out why you didn't do it and work on it.

Keep in mind
=> YOU go to a girl, YOU have to kiss here first when things go good.
=> The GIRL comes to you, the GIRL should make the kiss-move (or when she 'asks' (IOI) a kiss, you should do it).
Author:  Slip n Slide [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:36 pm ]
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It's all about hitting the right state. When you can tell she has a really high sexual state, take advantage of that moment and escalate. It won't be a very long window.
Author:  *FlaiR* [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What went wrong? Pls comment, since I am not objective anymo
Quote:
Hey guys,

I have been studying PUA-skills for a half year already and had some successes and failures. Still sometimes I hesitate to open, but when I open I am good in making it a fun conversation. The other problem I have is to convert the conversation into k-closing/sexual.

I just came back from a club, sarging girls. The last set was pretty good. My friends are given me thumbs up, I was convinced i was k-closing her. But i didn't.
Can you guys see what I can do better the next time.

I opened with my wingman a set, with two girls.
My opener was: 'what do you think of the service here". I order a beer, and get a dirty glass"....blablabal
The routine was good. Negging was good (teased her she is old, mean, ignoring target). My wingwan left, since I am very dominant in sets. Kino was good. She kino-ed me back. I was showing DHV, by disqualifying myself. Had a good story to improve more DHV.

I left the set, and after a while she was looking for eye-contact with me. An AFC approached her, and I was saving her. Now I put my arms around her waist. No problem. I kissed her on the cheecks, no problem. Then I hold her hands, and she was ok. After a while she let go (bad sign). I saw a twinkle in her eyes, we were looking in each other eyes for a long time, several times, SHe smiled at me many times. Lots of IOI's, still I didn't k-close her!

What is going on? :)
Good job dude..from what you're saying I see that you gamed very well...the best IOI for kissing is when you stop talking and look into her eyes.. if she looks back at you and holds eye contact for three seconds.. you can kiss.. it's the other 3 second rule that Mistery created..hope that I helped!
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