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Author:  Remedi [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:14 am ]
Post subject:  Help with ASD - sarcasm
Okay guys this is probably the tipping point for me as a reason to sign up here!
So as this story goes;

I am about to upgrade my phone and I felt like a clearance of my contacts and whatnot was due. So, whilst going through my phone, I find that i had phoned this random number when drunk about 5 times between 1-2 in the morning a few weeks ago. I text the number and it turns out to be this HB who I actually know from my college, just not that well.

I knew that she had a friend who had practically stalked me when I was 16 (unfortunately she was NOT attractive!) a couple of years ago, who had always testified that the HB liked me too, so I started flirting with this girl. My game is basically natural at this point still, however I have gotten to know the basics through reading posts on the forum and obviously The Game haha!

Needless to say this girl was clearly using sarcasm as an ASD and was constantly shit-testing me with it too- saying stuff like "oh you got me I am crazy in love with you and want to propose to you but unfortunately I don't get back till Tuesday from Spain" after I had merely questioned why she had sent me 3 texts in half an hour without me responding [Q1 is it a good/bad thing to point out to HB an example like this where it seems like they might be hitting on you?].

Needless to say I realised that this girl probably likes me, due to the number of times that she is sarcastic about liking me and is just using this as a shit-test. Then as a neg I tell her "Haha you are so sarcastic! I bet you scare off guys who don't know that you are joking ;)". Hardly the most inflammatory neg! This was her response:
Quote:
Tbh, I swear I don't mean any offence to you but I just don't like people to think I'm easy or getthe wrong impression or something cos a certain Ginger at your college seems to be saying the opposite about me. And if you tell anyone I said any of that you die
How would you guys handle this now? Should I be wary of the LJBF zone if she feels that I could not hurt her with this sensitive information, or is this a sign of trust and rapport that I can build upon? Is sarcasm a common form of ASD/Bitch-test (obviously these things are different but this HB has used it for both)?

Thanks guys, I'm kinda new to this so any pointers or advice for anything would be greatly appreciated and taken on board! It's amazing how, armed with a little bit of knowledge the whole thing seems more and more just like a logical game, and I have found it a real confidence booster for the month or so before I signed ip with the knowledge especially of shut-tests, which I never knew how to handle before!

Remedi
Author:  Octave [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:49 am ]
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I cant really tell from the context of that text, but it seemed like she may have opened up to you in some way. she told you something she obviously didnt want anyone else to know hence the pleasant death threat at the end lol.

Her point was that she doesnt like guys who think shes easy (let her know you never said you thought she was easy.

She also said she doesnt like guys who get the first impression. I would personally tell her, if a guy gets the wrong impression it may not all be his fault, tehre maybe a reason hes getting the wrong impression, tell her sometimes she should be straight forward then try and get her to admit to liking you. Thats what i would do
Author:  Slip n Slide [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:28 am ]
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I'd say your goal is comfort building. She's very uneasy about coming off as a slut, so make it clear that you will never judge her. Sarcastic texts like the Spain one can be met by happily playing along (maybe even subtly negging her for the sarcasm): "Well you better find a better way than that to propose to me! I'm a gold digger and the diamond needs to be HUGE!"

In response to your "hitting on you" question, yes it should be done, but non-judgmentally. Try "Hey give me time to respond first! Wow you must really like me!"

Obviously adjust the answers to your style of writing, but don't lose the fun.
Author:  From-Omega-to-Alpha [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with ASD - sarcasm
Dude she seams like she's into you, i don't see a reason to neg her, that would only drive her away in my opinion, just play along with her shit, to me it seems like she really likes you (maybe she's got some problems as to not seem like a slut) but if you mess this up, your game is weak.

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Tbh, I swear I don't mean any offence to you but I just don't like people to think I'm easy or getthe wrong impression or something cos a certain Ginger at your college seems to be saying the opposite about me. And if you tell anyone I said any of that you die
Remedi
I don't know if you know who's the ginger she's talking about, but i would recommend responding back with something that insults the person she hates (ie the ginger) and make sure to re-assure her feelings. Be playfull, like you don't give a fvck about what anyone says about her, tell her the only opinion that counts is what you think about her.
Author:  pumpington [ Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with ASD - sarcasm
Quote:
Okay guys this is probably the tipping point for me as a reason to sign up here!
So as this story goes;

I am about to upgrade my phone and I felt like a clearance of my contacts and whatnot was due. So, whilst going through my phone, I find that i had phoned this random number when drunk about 5 times between 1-2 in the morning a few weeks ago. I text the number and it turns out to be this HB who I actually know from my college, just not that well.

I knew that she had a friend who had practically stalked me when I was 16 (unfortunately she was NOT attractive!) a couple of years ago, who had always testified that the HB liked me too, so I started flirting with this girl. My game is basically natural at this point still, however I have gotten to know the basics through reading posts on the forum and obviously The Game haha!

Needless to say this girl was clearly using sarcasm as an ASD and was constantly shit-testing me with it too- saying stuff like "oh you got me I am crazy in love with you and want to propose to you but unfortunately I don't get back till Tuesday from Spain" after I had merely questioned why she had sent me 3 texts in half an hour without me responding [Q1 is it a good/bad thing to point out to HB an example like this where it seems like they might be hitting on you?].

Needless to say I realised that this girl probably likes me, due to the number of times that she is sarcastic about liking me and is just using this as a shit-test. Then as a neg I tell her "Haha you are so sarcastic! I bet you scare off guys who don't know that you are joking ;)". Hardly the most inflammatory neg! This was her response:
Quote:
Tbh, I swear I don't mean any offence to you but I just don't like people to think I'm easy or getthe wrong impression or something cos a certain Ginger at your college seems to be saying the opposite about me. And if you tell anyone I said any of that you die
How would you guys handle this now? Should I be wary of the LJBF zone if she feels that I could not hurt her with this sensitive information, or is this a sign of trust and rapport that I can build upon? Is sarcasm a common form of ASD/Bitch-test (obviously these things are different but this HB has used it for both)?

Thanks guys, I'm kinda new to this so any pointers or advice for anything would be greatly appreciated and taken on board! It's amazing how, armed with a little bit of knowledge the whole thing seems more and more just like a logical game, and I have found it a real confidence booster for the month or so before I signed ip with the knowledge especially of shut-tests, which I never knew how to handle before!

Remedi
Q1 : bad thing to be confrontational with women on the phone, don't call them out or react to anything they do

(explanation to text in bold) she qualified to you, after you set a frame that she likes you and you know it, she accepted your frame, but then she indicated (what you were calling ASD earlier was bitchsheild btw, a side effect of ASD but not ASD in its self) that she has ASD (your job to get this handled)

Q2: allways be wary of LJBF, but it is easy to stay out of, no interest, no escalation, = LJBF, too much escalation, too much interest = DISQUALIFICATION,

you should handle this like you should handle any girl who is attracted to you, start from the ground up, escalate the situation, and close,

she has allready jumped into your frame that she likes you, passively admitting it through qualification, you need to handle her ASD, by at some point during your interactions *set non judgemental frame*, *set frame that you are discreet*,
start as if you are in square one, assume she is attracted, begin qualifications, show interest, physically escalate, establish commonalities, make sure to cover the above 2 frames in your interaction
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