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| Author: | newbie6671 [ Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How to get a date after the open |
I meant ths girl at a improv class, advise I got from one of styles videos. I found out that this girl and I live in the same town (The class is about 45 mins from where we live) and I said to her "hey cool I live in the same town", I know not the best open but it worked. So she ask if I'd like to car pool with her and I said that'd be awesome. So she was driving me home and we had a nice talk and I found that we have a lot in common. I was able to #close but it was so we can set up the car pool. Anyway I want to know what I can do to get a date or Kclose. I have never gotten past the part I am at now. So I need detailed advise if possible. Im am a VERY AFC and I have never be on a date. Also I am horrible at small talk so a list of things to talk about would be awesome. Thank you in advance. |
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| Author: | kwantlenbrooks [ Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How to get a date after the open |
Quote: I meant ths girl at a improv class, advise I got from one of styles videos. I found out that this girl and I live in the same town (The class is about 45 mins from where we live) and I said to her "hey cool I live in the same town", I know not the best open but it worked. So she ask if I'd like to car pool with her and I said that'd be awesome. So she was driving me home and we had a nice talk and I found that we have a lot in common. I was able to #close but it was so we can set up the car pool. Anyway I want to know what I can do to get a date or Kclose. I have never gotten past the part I am at now. So I need detailed advise if possible. Im am a VERY AFC and I have never be on a date. Also I am horrible at small talk so a list of things to talk about would be awesome. Thank you in advance.
Some of the guys here would say, 'whatever, you got her number' but i think sometimes, it depends on how you get it like your situation.did you build any attraction with her? any flirting? it all depends on the context of how you got the number imo. |
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| Author: | Mantis- [ Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:25 pm ] |
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Sometimes you just have to be direct. Things like: You seem awesome and I want to get to know you. wanna go out and have a drink sometimes? or Yo, we just had hard class, I could use some relaxing. Lets go out and have a drink in our hometown  Read her a little bit, and next time ask her to come over to your place to have some fun or something I think (not too good with this stuff either, this is what i'd do )Be sure to keep flirting, you dont want to end in the 'friend' zone. |
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| Author: | guesss [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:52 am ] |
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depends what you want from this chick. get laid or a gf? i think you would be the gf kinda guy, and you're a newbie so getting laid is still a while away, your gonna have to build your relationship before you get that. build attraction by being a fun guy. tease her, make jokes, relate to her. make sure you dont fall for her shit tests. be different from all the other guys in her life. your aim is to make her enjoy spending time with you. create a scenario where you are going somewhere. you should be going there. tell her you are going there, and then offer her a chance to come along, but make it seem as if you're doing here a favour, make her work for it a little. hey, i wanted to go to .insert name of place., i heard its pretty cool... hhmmmmm.. i suppose you can come.. if you promise to behave. or do you know any good restaurants? my friend got busy with work and we wanted to go out. still want to go out though.. reply.. ok, i'l pick you up at 8. direct route could also work, it would save you all the time you would spend building up attraction, which could be just one car trip and making the arrangements at the end |
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| Author: | THFuran [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 4:49 am ] |
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I have to say I agree mostly with what Mantis points out. You two are just striking up a converstion and do not have a history with each other. Your common area is hometown and class aside from whatever your conversation may have unfolded. Here is how I would try to play this out. Have her drive, placing the women in a seat of power so she feels more in control of the situation, it will allow her to open up more to you. Try to do this on a day close to a weekend Friday or Saturday if possible, so its less likely she will have work obligations the next day, if this is at all possible. Dont be overly zealous about striking up conversation but dont be shy on the drive to class, do NOT ask her a lot of questions like an AFC would, ie how was your day what have you been up to. NO small talk, unless she initiates it. You just respond. At the class try to be the most over the top, bring your A performance, draw attention to yourself in the most positive way. Engage your other classmates as much as possible, especially the female ones. Dont neglect her completely but give her less interest, build her interest in you, make her want to come to you. After class is when you turn on the performance. On the ride home you can talk more openly, try to make some eye contact (I know difficult while driving). About 10 minutes into the drive steer the conversation towards how great that class was and how wild a week you have had at whatever it is you do. Tell her you would like to stop for a drink. DO NOT make the mistake of asking, be the aggressor, most women respond well to this and I have seen it yield the best results time and time again. As in "lets stop for a drink in (your hometown)." NOT "would you like to grab a drink". Talk about how you have had a long week and your appreciate her driving tonight and if she stops the first round is on you. Now let her choose the place (illusion of control), it will make her feel more comfortable and more comfort means more open. If you can land yourself getting all the way to the bar then its a whole different arena. Bar or Restaurant type area would be best, most open place and easy to talk, also lots of people around to make her feel comfortable and secure, not inviting her home and isolating her. That could scare her off. From the bar would be a similar approach but a few tweeks her and there. And as always remember to keep generally positive attitude and a great smile. If you like where I went with this feel free to ask for further input. Take care and best of luck buddy. Remember opportunities not taken are moments lost, you got to be in it to win it. |
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| Author: | guesss [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:36 am ] |
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yeah, basically we are all saying similar things about his next course of action. THEFuran, you do make a more direct approach seem appropriate. your plan has a lot more potential than mine did thanks to your reasoning.. i just think we misunderstood what direct and indirect was. see my understanding was that your way is still more indirect. When Mantis mentioned being direct i naturally thought he meant something like. look Jen, I'm really attracted to you and I want to get to know you better. not as basically as i put it there but with that being the main part. surely your method THEFuran is similar to mine as it implies that you just want to stop for a drink and have fun, you're not directly expressing your attraction towards here. The attraction relies on what he does after he gets her there and his body language. do you understand what i'm trying to say? trying to clear up my understanding of indirect and direct game. or am i just misinterpreting everything and should shut up |
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| Author: | THFuran [ Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:23 pm ] |
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You can feel free to be much more direct if you can get her to the social situation with you (ie the bar). Until then your best to try to build something to bring her to you. If your direct straight up, while avoiding the friends zone for sure, its easy to fall into a very akward place, you dont ever want to force something like that. Once you have lulled her into being a bit more comfortable with you and wants to be out with then you cant take a more direct approach. Beleive me, I am not about being too indirect as to end up in a friend zone or sending mixed messages. But I do beleive in a logical order to things, and flat out announcing something like that can work, but in a very few situations, this definetely not being one of them. Hope this can add some clarity. Best of luck. |
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