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Author:  Rawn [ Sun May 22, 2011 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  When you DHV and it fails, then what?

Okay, so I as doing well with this girl at a party last night. While doing the "5-questions and she will give you 5 wrong answers"-game with her, I won, and when that happened she was laughing but saying nothing. After a little while she claimed she won after she "got me" on the 4th question ("how many questions was that?")

Now while I joked around about it and claimed I won, but without trying too hard, some of the guys around that had been watching, gave her credit for winning, like people who are in to the girl will often do. You know - agree with her whatever her opinion is...

I kind of felt I lost it there, so I just gave it to her without getting stubborn. But it still felt like it turned out to be a DLV instead.

What would you have done?
How will/do you handle a situation like that?

Author:  mickeyjackson21 [ Sun May 22, 2011 4:36 pm ]
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i would have never backed down to the chick and submitted. you could even have accused her of being a bad loser. but in the end if you know something is about to go bad, flip the script and change the frame of the interaction.

Author:  kinorc [ Sun May 22, 2011 5:04 pm ]
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AMOG those fuckers. I would have laughed n said "oo you've been watching me (in a slightly weirder out but laughing at them voice)? Did you learn anything cause I would hate for you to waste your time! All of that should be said while laughing directly at their face. Keep eye contact n back them off ur set. Then I would've said "somebodys a sore loser" laughed n said "im glad Im learning this now" n transitioned into the cube w/something like "since im learning so much, let me run this personality test on u" ill give u my little way to turn it into a qualifier. "See I meet alot of girls n sometimes I end up talking to them for ten minutes n realize I should've stopped at two. (She will laugh and agree) This test helps me gauge your personality n decide if I wanna keep talking to you. So if I don't like your personality we will have to stop talking n ill say it was nice to meet you. Do you still wanna take it?" The whole time you are saying that be in an up laughing mood n escalate kino. Hope this helps...n don't let douchebags ruin your set. Just slightly clown them n get back to the girl. Nothing will piss them off more than to see you laughing at them n still being with the girl.

Author:  Rawn [ Sun May 22, 2011 6:13 pm ]
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I think I will try that next time this happens.

This may be my inner-AFC talking, but I did feel a little helpless in the situation partly because we were all very drunk (me less so, but still..!) and the guy was actually a guy I think I will need later on to help me with some other stuff.. So I didn't want to be too rude.

I did think about the cube, but felt the timing was all wrong for that. She would have needed to be isolated first, and I failed at that as well. I still have much to learn.

Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sun May 22, 2011 6:52 pm ]
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could be you laughed after making your owned jokes or negs.... smiling is ok but when you laugh about it it will DLV you.

never submit to a woman ... you better come up with some retarded neg instead of submission

Author:  Ungratify [ Thu May 26, 2011 3:34 am ]
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I would have just ignored the guys and not let their words affect me, which is a DLV for them. At the same time telling the girl - "It's just a game, you don't have to be a sore loser about it", with a smile on my face to show that whether she was right or wrong it's no big deal.

Author:  Rawn [ Thu May 26, 2011 11:14 pm ]
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I would have just ignored the guys and not let their words affect me, which is a DLV for them. At the same time telling the girl - "It's just a game, you don't have to be a sore loser about it", with a smile on my face to show that whether she was right or wrong it's no big deal.
I think you got the best solution here. I will remember that for next time.
Thanks a lot.

Author:  AllCock [ Fri May 27, 2011 9:42 pm ]
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I second that. Younger guys think that AMOGing is still a legitimate tactic. In most cases, it just shows your insecurity. Real men know when to defend and when the strongest response is shown in you completely being unaffected.

Did they say something? lol

Author:  sylvan [ Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:49 am ]
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i would have probably playe it off like a jerk

told the guys "youre only agreeing with her cause youre trying to get into her pants"

to the girl, i never would have backed down. maybe settle it with a different game and call that one a draw, but im not losing

Author:  Chainfire99 [ Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:04 pm ]
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How about stop trying so hard? DHV is a load of crap. Don't brag or show off to try to attract a woman...it reeks of desperation and trying hard. Be real, be cool, and she'll be interested in getting to know you more and through that process she will see naturally that you have high value.

DHV might as well be the same as some rich prick bragging about his Mercedes.

People in this community need to stop over-complicating everything. Going through a series of steps like women are some video game.


Picking up women isn't hard. But no matter how good your "game" is, you can't win them all either.

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