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Well I wouldn't say you did anything wrong. To answer your question though, it cal always go better. If I had any suggestions, I would have said kino escalate more (maybe you did, but I didn't gather much in your field report), and then move on to a kiss-close. Now if her friend was harassing her to come back and the HB was staying, that's a pretty solid IOI, and it shows that you have a strong frame to keep her in. Kiss-close was possible, but in any circumstances you number-closed.

Now with number-closing, here is the important things to know: a number in its self is merely a stair way to heaven; half the time they'll flake on you, won't answer, etc. There is a reason for this--the frame of reality is no longer congruent to what it was when you gained the number versus when you decide to call them back the next day. It's extremely important you don't just number-close, but you solidify the time gap. There are several ways to do this: invite her out--party, movie, etc., bounce her to another location within an hour or so..... be creative. But have a reason for getting the number rather than just getting her number. I hope you understand what I'm saying with this.

Your mid-game seems pretty solid though, and I wouldn't have had the balls to use the opener you went with. So nice job! Let me know how the next encounter goes, or if she flakes. If you both meet up again, give a phone call field report. Good luck!

Author:	Tayurshu [ Mon May 02, 2011 5:12 am ]
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So went to a housewarming party of a mate of mine on Sunday night. It was going slow until a few more ladies arrived, one of which was HB8. I purposely did a few eye contact glances first. I discussed with my wing, and planned out. I moved in with my PUL "Have you ever seen a vagina cake?" with a picture on my phone. She laughed and asked what I was doing making one. Told her a pre-planned story behind it which involved my wing. Wing moves in and the 3 of us are talking, while wing engages her friend sitting next to her. No idle discussion, going well. 5 minutes passes so time to escalate a little. I told her I was sitting down as I felt awkward with her at 'perfect height'. She laughed and told me to sit down. Wingman still involved. No stops in conversation. He moves out, we talk random. Time to qualify as time is moving. We were outside, i'd noticed she was a smoker, so I asked if she wanted to grab a smoke out the front of the house. No need for her to, as we were smoking where we were. She agreed and out the front. IOI done. Out the front i'm playing with my fedora peacock and told her if she thought it was gay, i'd have to move on. She said I looked cute in it. IOI again. I placed it on her head and played some kino a bit. After 5 minutes, # close. Anyway which I could have done it better? I was going for a KC, but her friend was calling her and making sure she was OK. Dinner planned in a couple of weeks when she's back in the city. She said it was a really good incentive for being back!

Author:	psychx [ Mon May 02, 2011 6:02 am ]
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Well I wouldn't say you did anything wrong. To answer your question though, it cal always go better. If I had any suggestions, I would have said kino escalate more (maybe you did, but I didn't gather much in your field report), and then move on to a kiss-close. Now if her friend was harassing her to come back and the HB was staying, that's a pretty solid IOI, and it shows that you have a strong frame to keep her in. Kiss-close was possible, but in any circumstances you number-closed. Now with number-closing, here is the important things to know: a number in its self is merely a stair way to heaven; half the time they'll flake on you, won't answer, etc. There is a reason for this--the frame of reality is no longer congruent to what it was when you gained the number versus when you decide to call them back the next day. It's extremely important you don't just number-close, but you solidify the time gap. There are several ways to do this: invite her out--party, movie, etc., bounce her to another location within an hour or so..... be creative. But have a reason for getting the number rather than just getting her number. I hope you understand what I'm saying with this. Your mid-game seems pretty solid though, and I wouldn't have had the balls to use the opener you went with. So nice job! Let me know how the next encounter goes, or if she flakes. If you both meet up again, give a phone call field report. Good luck!

Author:	Tayurshu [ Mon May 02, 2011 6:43 am ]
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Quote: Well I wouldn't say you did anything wrong. To answer your question though, it cal always go better. If I had any suggestions, I would have said kino escalate more (maybe you did, but I didn't gather much in your field report), and then move on to a kiss-close. Now if her friend was harassing her to come back and the HB was staying, that's a pretty solid IOI, and it shows that you have a strong frame to keep her in. Kiss-close was possible, but in any circumstances you number-closed. Now with number-closing, here is the important things to know: a number in its self is merely a stair way to heaven; half the time they'll flake on you, won't answer, etc. There is a reason for this--the frame of reality is no longer congruent to what it was when you gained the number versus when you decide to call them back the next day. It's extremely important you don't just number-close, but you solidify the time gap. There are several ways to do this: invite her out--party, movie, etc., bounce her to another location within an hour or so..... be creative. But have a reason for getting the number rather than just getting her number. I hope you understand what I'm saying with this. Your mid-game seems pretty solid though, and I wouldn't have had the balls to use the opener you went with. So nice job! Let me know how the next encounter goes, or if she flakes. If you both meet up again, give a phone call field report. Good luck! Thanks Psychx! I did a fair bit of Kino build, small stuff. Leg touching, etc. It built up and she explained she hasn't had any physical contact for a while (HUGE miss of a KC, i know) and went in for a hug - comfort building. Good kino. I pushed after that pull a little, and should have then built up again for a KC. Kino around the hat which led up to all of this was some upper arm touches, a playful shoulder bump and purposely holding lower back while walking outside - masking i was guiding her but keeping open hand there. I think I just need to refine it a little. I missed a great opportunity to KC in hindsight (thanks for triggering that acknowledgement, I didn't realise until I read your post!)

Author:	Tayurshu [ Mon May 02, 2011 12:42 pm ]
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Update. Text message from mine today. I sent a short one saying hope she got back to her home town ok and reinforced the dinner date. She came back and said "a trip to Sydney couldn't get any better". Now to the FC close. Dinner and drinks planned. KC will be easy. I need a transition to an FC prop. Any tips? She's played her cards and obviously can't wait so it's qualified and a HUGE IOI. Tips please!

Author:	psychx [ Tue May 03, 2011 6:19 am ]
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Quote: Update. Text message from mine today. I sent a short one saying hope she got back to her home town ok and reinforced the dinner date. She came back and said "a trip to Sydney couldn't get any better". Now to the FC close. Dinner and drinks planned. KC will be easy. I need a transition to an FC prop. Any tips? She's played her cards and obviously can't wait so it's qualified and a HUGE IOI. Tips please! Don't feel so dependent on the props, really. If anything, build more rapport in the next encounter, get the kiss-close, kino escalate a bit more, isolate her (while being locked in by her), bounce her to another location (club, cafe, movie, etc.), have a reason to go back to your place (or hers if she offers), and then proceed into seduction phase. Even though a lot of PUAs have talked about seduction phase, for example, Mystery broke down seduction into three phases: S1, S2, and S3. But I personally think you can figure out what to do, if while you're both at your place or her's, natural escalation of kissing and kino begins to happen. Hope this bit of info helps.

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Author:	Tayurshu [ Wed May 04, 2011 11:31 am ]
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Thanks mate Phone call report from last night. Ended up to be 1hr 15 minutes long, late at night. I didn't realise it was getting that long, either. Game went well, I played the "STOP IT" text message yesterday and caught her out. She said she was really smiling. I just need to build the rapport and comfort over the next few weeks until I am able to see her again.

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