PUA Forum :: Looks and body language aren't necessarily IOI's explained

Hey

We all know that we don't care about looking at some random girl you here and there for "too" long time. But if you have something going on with this one girl, looking cannot really be used as an IOI in the game.
Yes of course we have cases where you have eye contact for 5 seconds in a row, or walk by in a hallway and look in each others eyes the whole time whereby you can clearly see that its on and somethings between you.
But there are other times where you "think" somethings going on because she looks at you now and then maybe even a lot where it still isn't enough to tell whether she's into you or not. A lot of AFC sites on Google, tells you that looking and / or body language are the two best IOI's girls have to offer you. Yes i agree with the "looking IOI" as long as its eye contact for 4 seconds or more unless you know she's immature and looks away soon after you look her right in her eyes. (I personally experience this a lot, because I'm 16 and all girls around me are immature to a certain degree or have a rather low self esteem and therefore do not want to show interest)
Whenever YOU think that you have this thing with her, because she looks at you, and you of course look at her, then you might be all wrong. What i mean here, is that she maybe randomly looks at you while you notice it as an IOI. I have times where i see a girl, and just stare at her because shes hella ugly and maybe your friends consider her as a HB9 or whatever.
Do not look at body language either. Its not safe enough to indicate whether she likes you or not. She might just maneuverer her body close to you because she's comfortable that way that time, or bite her lip/ play with her hair (and the rest BL IOI's that many AFC's like to use) because she feels like it. And the other way around, closed arms... not necessarily because shes not open at that time, but maybe because shes cold. So unless you have eye contact almost every time you pass her or see her in mid game, flirt her ass off and look at her response to it. You'll know from her reaction if she likes you or not. If she doesn't like you, she will back up when you flirt all the time with her, if she does like you (high chance) she will do nothing or flirt back.

Author:	T0BY [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Looks and body language aren't necessarily IOI's explained
Hey We all know that we don't care about looking at some random girl here and there for "too" long time. But if you have something going on with this one girl, looking cannot really be used as an IOI in the game. Yes of course we have cases where you have eye contact for 5 seconds in a row, or walk by in a hallway and look in each others eyes the whole time whereby you can clearly see that its on and somethings between you. But there are other times where you "think" somethings going on because she looks at you now and then maybe even a lot where it still isn't enough to tell whether she's into you or not. A lot of AFC sites on Google, tells you that looking and / or body language are the two best IOI's girls have to offer you. Yes i agree with the "looking IOI" as long as its eye contact for 4 seconds or more unless you know she's immature and looks away soon after you look her right in her eyes. (I personally experience this a lot, because I'm 16 and all girls around me are immature to a certain degree or have a rather low self esteem and therefore do not want to show interest) Whenever YOU think that you have this thing with her, because she looks at you and you of course look at her, then you might be all wrong. What i mean here, is that she maybe randomly looks at you while you notice it as an IOI. I have times where i see a girl, and just stare at her because shes hella ugly and maybe your friends consider her as a HB9 or whatever. Do not look at body language either. Its not safe enough to indicate whether she likes you or not. She might just maneuverer her body close to you because she's comfortable that way that time, or bite her lip/ play with her hair (and the rest BL IOI's that many AFC's like to use) because she feels like it. And the other way around, closed arms... not necessarily because shes not open at that time, but maybe because shes cold. So unless you have eye contact almost every time you pass her or see her in mid game, flirt her ass off and look at her response to it. You'll know from her reaction if she likes you or not. If she doesn't like you, she will back up when you flirt all the time with her, if she does like you (high chance) she will do nothing or flirt back. IF you happen to be one of these guys using the Apocalypse opener, mind framing, s&a or anything else straight to point, keeping her eye contact is the most important thing you can do. Do it until she breaks it, (note to self: always keep it until she breaks it) because if you don't but instead look down after 3 seconds because of insecurity, shes gonna think your full of shit BECAUSE she looks in your eyes to determine whether your full of shit or not when you go straight to point.

Author:	hako [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:32 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Looks and body language aren't necessarily IOI's explained
Quote: Hey We all know that we don't care about looking at some random girl you here and there for "too" long time. But if you have something going on with this one girl, looking cannot really be used as an IOI in the game. Yes of course we have cases where you have eye contact for 5 seconds in a row, or walk by in a hallway and look in each others eyes the whole time whereby you can clearly see that its on and somethings between you. But there are other times where you "think" somethings going on because she looks at you now and then maybe even a lot where it still isn't enough to tell whether she's into you or not. A lot of AFC sites on Google, tells you that looking and / or body language are the two best IOI's girls have to offer you. Yes i agree with the "looking IOI" as long as its eye contact for 4 seconds or more unless you know she's immature and looks away soon after you look her right in her eyes. (I personally experience this a lot, because I'm 16 and all girls around me are immature to a certain degree or have a rather low self esteem and therefore do not want to show interest) Whenever YOU think that you have this thing with her, because she looks at you, and you of course look at her, then you might be all wrong. What i mean here, is that she maybe randomly looks at you while you notice it as an IOI. I have times where i see a girl, and just stare at her because shes hella ugly and maybe your friends consider her as a HB9 or whatever. Do not look at body language either. Its not safe enough to indicate whether she likes you or not. She might just maneuverer her body close to you because she's comfortable that way that time, or bite her lip/ play with her hair (and the rest BL IOI's that many AFC's like to use) because she feels like it. And the other way around, closed arms... not necessarily because shes not open at that time, but maybe because shes cold. So unless you have eye contact almost every time you pass her or see her in mid game, flirt her ass off and look at her response to it. You'll know from her reaction if she likes you or not. If she doesn't like you, she will back up when you flirt all the time with her, if she does like you (high chance) she will do nothing or flirt back. I completely agree with you, i quit trying to find IOI. I was never 100% sure and the attention i was giving in noticing (yes, im a one-mind track kind of person) really distracted me from her. Personally i go with kino, i wouldnt find a better IOI than she letting me put my hand in her leg without reacting. But that just me, i would love to hear what wiser members (im fairly new to this) have to say about IOIs

Author:	pleasureseeker [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:55 am ]
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everything a girl does in my presence is an IOI, I am the shit and if she doesn't know that already, then she'll wise up fast or get thrown out of my kingdom. (what this means is, whether or not it's an IOI, you should still think she's into you, most of the time you can transition into a3 or her qualifying herself to you. Sometimes girls will give ZERO IOI's but still be attracted to you.. I don't even pay attention to them anymore I just assume that they are with confidence and they fall into my frame

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