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Author:  ramlives [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:26 am ]
Post subject:  how to keep conversation flowing, what to talk about Part 1

I will try my best to explain this as simply as I can so that you can start using the information straight away, this is how to get her to talk and start to invest in conversation

WARNING - this is just rapport building, you need to weave game through this stuff or you will end up with a friend instead of GF, SNL or whatever

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Remember to become good at describing things and why you lke things in general
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The first part is about Her (or whoever you are talking to) this is the part that your questions when talking about a conversational theme should be based on

Ask her opinions (think in terms of Likes or doesn't like, what she thinks and knows)

Eg. "what do you think of..." "do you think that..." "isn't it?..."

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And the second part is about you, these are the statements parts

What you want (or what we all want) Eg. "I would like to..." or "we all want to..."

Your opinions (again think in terms of Likes/dislikes but try to keep it positive) eg. "I think that..."

What you know (talking about what you know about the subject. 'Things you did or are going to do' etc) you can also make statements about peoples states or a venues SPAM


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Look for similar likes and opinions (i.e. commonalities to build rapport) you want her to accept your frames, basicly the game is to get her to accept your way of thinking


E.g. This is taken from Hypnoticas deep phone seduction audio, its just fluff talk but it works well as an example of a master pua talking fluff, which is important because you need fluff talk to fill in all the gaps so you never run out of things to say and you don't get awkward silences

This exert is right at the start a few minutes before he starts his DPS stuff

Eric: r u in the middle of watching something

HB: actually I just got done watching (Inaudible...)

Eric: is it good? (asking her opinion on it, does she like it)

HB: yeah its pretty good

Eric: its one of those movies I wanted to watch (talking about what he wants)

HB: (Inaudible...)

Eric: I fugred I (Inaudible...) Since its kind of hard to get in mode at the scene, do you know? (hes giving an opinion and using a check in)

HB: Oh yeah

Eric: its just kind of

HB: (Inaudible...) that place is full of heavy heavy drama but u know...

Eric: oh come on, do you know any places that arnt (asking her opinion)

HB: lol yeah

Eric: its got its own thing with the girls that get crazy there its slighty different SPAM (making a statement about what he knows on the subject)

HB: yeah a bit

Eric: its a little bit wilder and crazier, so Inaudible... do you like the vip better there? (making a statement about what he knows and asking about her likes)

HB: um, idk like i feel me personally like i feel that whole vip thing is kind of a joke, because nothings going to happen and idk what people think, it is what it is

Eric: isnt it (hes agreeing that they have the same views, this is rapport building and a commonality)

Hope this helps

Author:  forestmonster [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:56 am ]
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Getting her beliefs about things.

product of a belief = I have a cat.
product of a belief = I have a mouse
product of a belief = I have a ford car.

What's the belief behind this?
cuz she likes big cars the Fords, cuz she likes small cute animals, cuz she likes furry things.

Then move away from the product which was, I have a cat, I have a mouse, I have a Ford. To the belief itself.

Why do you prefer cute/small things?
How do big cars fit better into your lifestyle?

This is Kezia nobles deep connection crap, basically digging for the reason she does things, so not just having her explain the the things she does.









Here is a good question. Isn't all these statements you said and the things im talking about here all SUPPLICATION?

asking for information = supplication
"what do you think of..." "do you think that..." "isn't it?..."
some more: "tell me more" "id like to hear more" "thats interesting say more details" "expand on that topic"

Author:  ramlives [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:32 am ]
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no man, its simply being interested in what the person is saying, its just normal conversation

but don't think of supplication, thats some value game internet bullshit. And as for kezia nobles... wtf is a product of belief lol thats some serious confusing mental jerken off right there

if someone said to me "I have a cat" I would reply simply "me too" and then talk about something funny in its personallity, easy for me my cats got a big stupid coiled tail, markings on its face like hitler, its realy unfriendly, bangs at my window and door early in the morning looking in waking me up all the time and when its in it basicly takes over my bed

if I use a check in like "you know what I mean?" which is asking her opinion, if shes any fun at all she'll prob agree and tell you some shit about her cat too for a few minutes, easy :D

listen to conversation, especially women, most of its just about liking, dislikeing or wanting something they like

now when you start layering conversational themes, and adding in frames over this technique thats when it become extremely powerful

Imagine your looking a GF but nothing serious and you open the theme of relationships, can you imagine what you can do with that if you get her agreeing with what you're saying!!!

Me: I think some people are mad in this town, do you ever notice the amount of people round 20 thats engaged, like if it makes them happy ok but personally I want to have a little fun first before I take on a commitment as heavy as that, you know what I mean? if she just give you a one word answer here simply add "so what do you think the whole thing")

(so I'm telling her I want to have fun first, I do want to commit at some stage but for now I'm not down for getting tied to any sort of deep relationship)

depending on her answer now know what shes after, wether it be an SNL, fuck buddy or the worst of all a husband!

The same can be applied to any conversational theme you wish to dominate

this is as far as I know the core of framing "I like..." if they agree they are accepting your frame, this is why a nice guy never wins because he agrees to everything she says, accepting all her frames and is no challenge, this is where frame controll and breaking rapport come in great

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