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Author:  obstruction [ Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Make A Conversation About Everything?
This a good idea? Because I met this girl we got along great and talked alooottt but, things got really awkward for some reason.. I guess me always asking her if she wanted to hang out and all I got in return were Maybe, and IDK

But,

Me:What Good/Up
Her: Nothing, U
Me: Thats cool lol :D, where you at now?
Her: School
Me; What class you in now?
Her : Art
Me: So Art :) What are you doing in art now?
Her : Two Point Prespective ,
Me : What are those lol? i don't know much about art
Her : Explanation *
Me : Oh I see, sounds like pretty cool stuff.. Are you drawing anything for it?
Her : Yes, -thing drawing
Me : Can you send me a picture of it ^_^
Her : Picture sent - subtitle on it
Me : Comment - tell what I think
Her - Says thanks, or some other reply
Me : I ask if they got anything else goin on today - or move on to what there next class is..


RATE THIS?
Author:  shawnmichaels [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:26 am ]
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0. Shit, AFC. You got to dhv and stop giving such a shit about her. 50 questions is boring. That's an interrogation, not a convo.
Author:  HitTheLightsPumpTheStrobe [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:59 am ]
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Shawnmichaels has it right man. You needa learn how to tell good stories and dhv yourself and be a bit more fun/flirty in your texts. It's ok to be nice but throw in a bit of cocky funny about her pic or something. Also school is shit. instead of moving into what class she has next talk about something else thats more fun =)
Author:  Moreno [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:40 pm ]
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i counted more than 5 questions in a row from u,it's uncool even if ur genuinely
interested in her to baragge her with so many questions,the tip is combine
statements with questions,u ask a question and then u make a statement,take her
reply from ur question and comment on that,for example u ask her
how's it going,and she says, fine, then look at her and u can make a comment about
it like "u seem like ur in a good mood today". u made ur statement right there,
now ur free to ask another question.Also it's important to relate back to urself,
so for example ur asking her how's it going,and she says fine, u may instead say
"i'm fine too,i just finished my physics lesson" or whatever u were into at that moment,she'll open up more,when u open up about urself and the things going
on in ur life :) cheers
Author:  obstruction [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:02 am ]
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I've noticed I ask too many fucking questions.. but, isn't that what conversations are really about talking/asking about random shit really? And yeah, I'm not all like this all the time with girls alot of other ones are more interested in carrying on a conversation about statements I would do..

I'll post a transcript and you tell me what you think.

The one I posted was all made up above



this is legit


Her: Hey sorry we havent talked my sister always has my phone cuz she lost hers
Me: It's Cool :)
Her: Okay
Me: Whats up?
Her: Nothing hbu
Me: Out with friends, do you want to chill later
Her: I can't
Me: Okay
Her: Sorry
Me: Its alrite, ne idea when you can
Her: Prolly next week
Me: K, hopefully (:, im going to cali, next week tho
Her: Take me with you
Me: Its too late sowwy I wlda if I clda lol (: next time?
Her: Lol okay what you going there for
Me: Vacation, to escape the cold, and I got tickets to some big giveaway at a show, hope I get free stuff (:
Her: Cool
Me:Lol yeah I guess it is
Her: I wanna go
Me: I can take take pics lol n u can pretend ur there lol :p but I cld try n sneak u on the plane lmao
Her: Lol Right

I stopped texting her cause I was busy.. so meh

I feel I could of done this better but, what do you think.
Author:  tooothpick [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:15 am ]
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A few critiques:

"Do you want to chill later?"
Bad. "Let's chill later" would have been much better. "I'm going out later, want to come with?" would have been better still.

"K, hopefully (:"
Seems too wishful. Would have actually been better to flat out reject, saying you'll be in Cali.

Maybe focus more on the show you got tickets to, since that shows you have a good social life and is a slight DHV I suppose.
Author:  obstruction [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:31 am ]
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So.. the goal is be jerkish/nice make statements and few questions out of everything they say ..? Because, I've just been nice and that gets me little action but, NOT what im trying to get I want more.
Author:  tooothpick [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:44 am ]
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So.. the goal is be jerkish/nice make statements and few questions out of everything they say ..? Because, I've just been nice and that gets me little action but, NOT what im trying to get I want more.
You're much better off reading some literature about the subject at this point, rather than asking for a critique of every conversation you have. Then you'll be able to start critiquing yourself, seeing what you did wrong in any encounter, and improving. Search around for some materials (searching PUA should yield a bunch of stuff). Try them out!
Author:  obstruction [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:57 am ]
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I don't really need books..but, if you insist.. It's just I ask so many fucking questions, and when I do make statements I overkill it by adding too much and not leaving them anything to reply to me on. sort of
Author:  tooothpick [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:16 am ]
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I don't really need books..but, if you insist.. It's just I ask so many fucking questions, and when I do make statements I overkill it by adding too much and not leaving them anything to reply to me on. sort of
Trust me, that's not the problem here, only a symptom. You might not necessarily have to read books (though it helps), but certainly reading articles on the subject will help. There's plenty here and on sites like FastSeduction and BristolLair. There's far more to PUA then your ratio of questions to statements...
Author:  Algorythm [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:25 am ]
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I don't really need books..but, if you insist.. It's just I ask so many fucking questions, and when I do make statements I overkill it by adding too much and not leaving them anything to reply to me on. sort of
Dude with statements you can open up any thread possible you just havnt seen it yet, check the link on my online game
chat-room-game-msnclose--vt80819.html?highlight=

Something Ive learned about conversations is only ask questions that matters to us not to other people around us, making statements is a lot more powerful then asking questions by doing so you can also tell wether the person is open or not whilst having more thread from the conversation, own the silent moment just keep your mouth shut if theres a silence(just learned the silence recently) ;)

compare the 2 games and see if you can pick up on your mistakes man, this is my tightest online game Ive done so far.
Author:  obstruction [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:08 am ]
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I don't really need books..but, if you insist.. It's just I ask so many fucking questions, and when I do make statements I overkill it by adding too much and not leaving them anything to reply to me on. sort of
Dude with statements you can open up any thread possible you just havnt seen it yet, check the link on my online game
chat-room-game-msnclose--vt80819.html?highlight=

Something Ive learned about conversations is only ask questions that matters to us not to other people around us, making statements is a lot more powerful then asking questions by doing so you can also tell wether the person is open or not whilst having more thread from the conversation, own the silent moment just keep your mouth shut if theres a silence(just learned the silence recently) ;)

compare the 2 games and see if you can pick up on your mistakes man, this is my tightest online game Ive done so far.
You did good.. The first post of mine was made up off the bat.

The second was real but I get the idea I just need better word choiceness I believe, I spotted multiple parts where I could of said something much much better to get a better and more wanted response

I could of dragged out and played that second text game so much better.. But I was caught up with my friends and black ops lmao.. But, I got something good coming up tomorrow it should play out well if this other girl isnt pissy about her ex.. it should play out great, we kinda reconnected sort of lastnight. -.-
Author:  tooothpick [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:21 am ]
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You did good.. The first post of mine was made up off the bat.

The second was real but I get the idea I just need better word choiceness I believe, I spotted multiple parts where I could of said something much much better to get a better and more wanted response

I could of dragged out and played that second text game so much better.. But I was caught up with my friends and black ops lmao.. But, I got something good coming up tomorrow it should play out well if this other girl isnt pissy about her ex.. it should play out great, we kinda reconnected sort of lastnight. -.-
The main problem I see isn't that you ask too many questions or use the wrong words... it's the entire content of what you're saying - it's boring. You're not sparking any emotions in her, not really giving her any reason to feel attracted to you. When you suggested smuggling her on the plane to Cali, that would have been a great place to start a pattern about adventure, but there's absolutely no attraction material in there. It sounds exactly like a conversation she'd have with a friend of hers, which if you want to get with her, is exactly the opposite of what you want. You want to show her something new.

Another problem I noticed second time round: You asked her to hang out before building any sort of connection. Other way round! You build attraction first, THEN ask them to hang out.
Author:  obstruction [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:36 am ]
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You did good.. The first post of mine was made up off the bat.

The second was real but I get the idea I just need better word choiceness I believe, I spotted multiple parts where I could of said something much much better to get a better and more wanted response

I could of dragged out and played that second text game so much better.. But I was caught up with my friends and black ops lmao.. But, I got something good coming up tomorrow it should play out well if this other girl isnt pissy about her ex.. it should play out great, we kinda reconnected sort of lastnight. -.-
The main problem I see isn't that you ask too many questions or use the wrong words... it's the entire content of what you're saying - it's boring. You're not sparking any emotions in her, not really giving her any reason to feel attracted to you. When you suggested smuggling her on the plane to Cali, that would have been a great place to start a pattern about adventure, but there's absolutely no attraction material in there. It sounds exactly like a conversation she'd have with a friend of hers, which if you want to get with her, is exactly the opposite of what you want. You want to show her something new.

Another problem I noticed second time round: You asked her to hang out before building any sort of connection. Other way round! You build attraction first, THEN ask them to hang out.
Just be creative/ unique with everything you say really, poke fun at her flaws. The sneaking her on board could of played that out hella good though.. I'll read up and learn... Do you have any specific links bro?
Author:  tooothpick [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:43 am ]
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You did good.. The first post of mine was made up off the bat.

The second was real but I get the idea I just need better word choiceness I believe, I spotted multiple parts where I could of said something much much better to get a better and more wanted response

I could of dragged out and played that second text game so much better.. But I was caught up with my friends and black ops lmao.. But, I got something good coming up tomorrow it should play out well if this other girl isnt pissy about her ex.. it should play out great, we kinda reconnected sort of lastnight. -.-
The main problem I see isn't that you ask too many questions or use the wrong words... it's the entire content of what you're saying - it's boring. You're not sparking any emotions in her, not really giving her any reason to feel attracted to you. When you suggested smuggling her on the plane to Cali, that would have been a great place to start a pattern about adventure, but there's absolutely no attraction material in there. It sounds exactly like a conversation she'd have with a friend of hers, which if you want to get with her, is exactly the opposite of what you want. You want to show her something new.

Another problem I noticed second time round: You asked her to hang out before building any sort of connection. Other way round! You build attraction first, THEN ask them to hang out.
Just be creative/ unique with everything you say really, poke fun at her flaws. The sneaking her on board could of played that out hella good though.. I'll read up and learn... Do you have any specific links bro?
David deAngelo has some material you might find useful, I believe he coined the term 'Cocky Funny' which is what you're after. Ross Jefferies has a lot of info about patterning which you could have applied to the sneaking her on board. And there's plenty of material around for building attraction - look around for some routines you can use (though some are only good as openers, not useful for someone you already know) or take a look into natural game.
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