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Author:  laaddict [ Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:08 am ]
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from two and a half men, charlie tells allen "always answer a womans question with another question"

Solution:
HB: are you a player?
PUA: How many guys have you slept with?


It wouldnt be you saying exactly that. But it would be somewhere along the lines of, you think shes been with alot of players, which is the reason shes asking. So I want to know how many guys shes slept with, cause if shes been with a lot of players, then shes obviously a slut(DLV for her). Obviously she'll change her question from, are you a player to asking you the number of girls youve slept with. Then you can answer however you want. But you basically dont jump through the hoop, and you avoid a question thats a lose almost no matter what you do, including ignoring her.

I think there is room for improvement, but I think this will work better than anything else out there, with a little bit of input from a few people to polish it off.
Author:  timer [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:10 am ]
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Why? Are you attracted to that kind of guy?
Author:  cr0ss [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:56 pm ]
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I would say in a really cocky way, "Hey it's not my fault millions of girls are just that attracted to me."
Author:  Meatloaf [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:52 pm ]
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I think you should go with a C/F answer with a thrown in Neg.

be like

"I cant help it if women desire me so much, but you really shouldnt go judging all the guys you want so harshly. Open the book to the first few pages before you judge its cover."
Author:  TheGreatTailz [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:24 am ]
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"SLUT" is a derogatory term man, girls dont like it. They might play around and call eachother that just like u might call ur bro a nigga but if u put 100 girls up and ask if theyre a slut 99 of them will say no.

If a girls askin u if ur a player its a derogatory term. NO girl ever wants to be with a player. Cuz they get played. Get with it man.

Shoot it down immediately, even if u are a player. Thats the equivalent of a girl askin you how many girls you slept with, you never give em the real answer. I wouldnt b cocky or b throwin a neg in that situation thats a direct question man. Shes talkin to you, thats ioi #1. If shes already interested its time to build attraction. DHV time bro all the way home
Author:  laaddict [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:48 am ]
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did you guys even read it?? I never said call her a slut. And the rest of you who didnt read it, would have seen that I said if you aknowledge what she says then its basically a losing situation. And its still a losing situation if you ignore her, cause you are subcommunicating the following :"Yeah Im a player, but I would rather not admit it". Losing situation no matter what.

Anyways, I posted this after reading 60 years of challenge's book.

Im tired of this DHV, openers, neg and pumping buying temperature garbage. The mainstream ideas are silly, I agree that less is more. And the most effective thing you can do is vibing, creating sexual tension.

Its a basic comeback for a basic(but very effective) ASD.

I dont think "How many guys have you slept with?" is the right thing to say. But something similar would be the best thing to answer it with. It needs to be in the form of a question, and at the same time needs to sound natural, which this does not.
Author:  Meatloaf [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:53 am ]
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how about:
"why are you already thinking that far ahead? i just wanted to talk to you."

or

"do i scare you?"
Author:  laaddict [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:58 am ]
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Quote:
how about:
"why are you already thinking that far ahead? i just wanted to talk to you."

or

"do i scare you?"
First one makes you sound like, "im the kind of guy who might not have sex with you." You are also ignoring her question in a way, so later on she will just ask you the same question again.

second one is outright admitting that you are a player. That is a very bad thing.

In the show, charlie says this because allen is going out with two girls at the same time. And he tells this to allen so that hes ready for when one of the girls asks him if hes seeing another woman.

When allens girl asks him if hes seeing another woman he answers with "You think Im seeing another woman?" Which although is a question, is not the right question, its similar to your replies.

But charlies girl asks him is he is seeing another woman, and he answers "Trust is a two way street, so I should ask you, are you seeing another man?"
Author:  cr0ss [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:59 am ]
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I don't see why another question is necessary. She won't actually believe that millions of girls are attracted to you but you're cockiness is attractive to her. Acknowledging that she said something is not a bad thing, you didn't give her a straight answer. But if you think that always asking questions will work for you and not make you the creepy interviewer guy then go for it.
Author:  laaddict [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:45 pm ]
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I don't see why another question is necessary. She won't actually believe that millions of girls are attracted to you but you're cockiness is attractive to her. Acknowledging that she said something is not a bad thing, you didn't give her a straight answer. But if you think that always asking questions will work for you and not make you the creepy interviewer guy then go for it.
I know Im not wrong here.

Im not saying everytime a woman asks a question you have to reply with a question. In this specific case, because whatever you do answer her with you will look bad, and if you ignore her you will look bad. This case is special in that you have to be very creative.

HB: Are you a player?
PUA: Yes

Most girls will think this is bad and you did a huge DLV on yourself. If a girl even hangs out with a player shes going to lower her value.

HB: Are you a player?
PUA:No

It doesnt matter how you tell her, it will always look bad. You're basically going to look like you are lying to her or you're telling her you are not good with women. Bad in either case.

HB:Are you a player?
PUA: *ignore*

Shes going to assume the answer is yes, and on top of that, she has just shattered your frame, this is a big DHV.


Has noone else read 60 years of challenge's book? Does noone else understand why I think in this case, the only response must be a question?
The idea here is that you have to keep her from lowering your value. So you cant come off as being too smooth, or not smooth at all.

I know that I am right about this. I dont understand why even one person doesnt see whats going on. I think the people who did read just skimmed over the words and looked at my 1 post count and assumed that Im wrong because of it, not actually grasping and understanding the idea completely.
Just like the last guy, I never said anything close to be the weird interviewer guy. And I specifically said that aknowledging her in this case was a very bad thing, more than once in my last posts.
Author:  @TheRealDonnyV [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:08 pm ]
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I would say in a really cocky way, "Hey it's not my fault millions of girls are just that attracted to me."
Good answer
Author:  Junglepimp [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:51 pm ]
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I guess the response should be leading.. as in.. instead of "Do I scare you?".. "Do I scare you THAT bad? ;) ".
Author:  biggus [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:24 pm ]
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Had that thrown at me once or twice when im getting close to going for a snog, I usually say in a very slow, deliberate and apathetic way: No, I just understand what women need, want and desire at a very fundamental level.

Usual replies are:
1)giggle/lip bite/look of doing long devision on their face
2)"and whats that?" - "This" triangular gazing *teasing kiss in slow motion*
3)"omg you are such a player" - "If I am then you know what im gonna do next" (read 2)

Thats what I personally say, works most of the time, sometimes after you make out they smile while shaking their heads, like they are thinking 'you smooth little mother fucker'. But you know they are loving it ^^

Thats the best I can offer guys :?
Author:  vg05 [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:37 pm ]
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"Are you a player"

PUA: "Nah, Im the coach"
Author:  Art Sandusky [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:12 am ]
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^^ Real talk. Best answer yet. It'll get that surprised "ohhh!" (you know, the kind that rises and falls in pitch) mixed with laughter that I delight in seeing oh so much. It's the equivalent of her saying "well goddamn, that was a far better answer than I was ready for and now I'm yours."
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