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Author:  MiMs277 [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:50 am ]
Post subject:  Failed on a Girl, Possible Recovery?

I randomly messaged this random girl on my facebook friends list 3 weeks ago, and realized she was kind of cute. After that I saw her on occasion.

One Night 2 weeks ago I called her as a joke and told her I could of swore I saw her outside of my room looking at me with binoculars while i was changing, she found it hillarious.

Eventually we start writing on each others walls and it went something like this:

her: I'm stalking you!!!.. lmao.. u wierdo... get sober! (she thought i was drunk)

Me: you just need to stop stalking me its not even funny anymore

her: lol....shaaaduuppp...."binocularrsss".....who the hell is deion!?? lmaooo

Me: He's my boy, and our future son. Any more questions child?

Her: Oh-No....i dont. lol.....loser

Me: Your making me look like one by commenting on my wall, I need to make a reminder to delete all these so I don't look bad

Her: haha....same...ure 2 lame 4 me....and deion is YOUR son, not ours!!

I continue to text her and then last week I asked her on a date, she said I'll get back to you, she didn't get back to me and next time I saw her she seemed kind of awkward. Like she was trying to burn me *hesitated on giving me a hug, etc.*

So what I want to know:
1) How I screwed up
2) Is there a chance I can recover and get this girl?
3) How I should have approached this

Author:  thatsgreat2345 [ Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:37 pm ]
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How you screwed up? Next time you're talking to a girl I'd recommend not bringing up anything about marriage, children, and especially don't say "it's our future child", that just freaks girls out.

I actually like the way you approached it accusing her of stalking you, obviously it got a response from her. But when you said "stop talking to me", and "our future son" , despite you joking it can send the wrong message, and then you saying "delete these" , I personally think that even if you deleted them or not that you're sending a message that you're ashamed of her or something.

What I would have done differently instead of saying don't talk to me line, would have gone with a "This will be the third restraining order, man crazy women just love me", and well just totally skipped on the "our son" line and the going to delete it all line.

As for recovery, I don't know.

Author:  MiMs277 [ Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:05 am ]
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Thanks bro, ya I also texted her today the conversation went something like this (this is before I saw this post):

Me: School started and I need someone to text to pass the time. Want to help?

Her (3 hours later): Good morninggg

Me: I hate you so much

Her: im sick =(

Me: At least you didn't wake up at the time you normally sleep

Her: Lmaoooo suux 4 youuuu!

Me: Better than being... Sick! (enter horror music here)

Her: yaaaaa ='( aahhh fml!

Me: How does me visiting you with flowers and hot soup sound?

Her: It sounds like ud get sick within a second cuz I'm sneezing every 10-30 seconds =b ohh and i look like a demon.... so thats not gonna happen

Me: It wasn't gonna I just wanted to know how it sounded

Her: it sounds amazziing... if ure my mom

Me: I don't got to be a mom to take care of you, but it was a joke

Her: lol... i want soup

Me: You lost your chance when you didn't give me an answer for a date saturday night :P

Didn't text back... I regret what I said like crazy

Author:  MiMs277 [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:42 am ]
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Ok so as an update. I'm working with her as a counselor next Wednesday and I want to avoid awkwardness (she's seen me since I asked her on a date ans got rejected). Any idea how I can repair our relationship? Very difficult to find a girl that matches my standards like her.

Author:  thatsgreat2345 [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:12 pm ]
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I liked the "how does this sound" and the I wasn't offering just wanted to see how it sounded line that was good win, win on your end. But never say anything is a joke, or if you say something don't say "Just kidding" or anything like that. I think you're being too persistent and being too clingy and showing interest too fast so it's scaring her off. If you really want to get some alone time and stuff, invite her to something that you are already planning on going to with friends. Try something along the lines of talking about being free friday night, and saying you should hang out, and to call you. Then if she doesn't call and brings it up on saturday like "hey we didn't hang out on friday" then it's all on her that she didn't call. But you're working with her as a counselor? That's a little weird of a relationship, and I don't see it as being professional to try and date a client like that. I don't know for advice here, it's just weird.

Author:  GetmetheGirl [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:34 pm ]
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You know what dude, imho your entire set rocked.

You were completely spot on, it just didn't work thats all. you can't control everything you can just try.

Vince Lynch

Author:  MiMs277 [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:31 pm ]
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I meant me and her are counselors lol. And thanks Vince

Author:  MiMs277 [ Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:52 pm ]
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So how should I play it next time I see her? Because I get the feeling what I've been doing hasn't been working so far

Author:  MiMs277 [ Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:19 pm ]
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Hey guys I'm seeing her next saturday night, any suggestions on how to play it?

Author:  Mr. D [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:01 am ]
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The second you asked her out on a "date", your value shot down dramatically. Try to see it from her pov: "here's this guy who is treating me like a brat and it's keeping me interested because I'm new to that." As soon as you asked her out on a date, you became every lame, low value guy that has asked her out on a date. I make it a rule to never formally ask a girl out. It's outdated, and not to mention most high value girls don't want to date, they want to be sluts without anyone knowing they're sluts.

The next time you see her, treat her EXACTLY THE SAME as you do on the internet. It's already awkward because you met her on the internet and now you're transitioning to real life. You literally are a different person in real life than you are on the internet. Make her see you aren't every chump that got scared when the shit went down. She's basically shit testing you every time she replies to you negging her. When you asked her out on a date, you failed the shit test. You lost value. Now you're just a guy who asks for dates over cyber space. Next time you talk to her, plan something beforehand and ask her if she wants to tag along. Maybe you're running an errand, going to some event, just anything that isn't a "date", and ask her if she wants to tag along. That way, it's not threatening and it isn't awkward. Good luck bro :D

Author:  MiMs277 [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:28 am ]
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So your saying I've been doing well... except for the date part?

Author:  Mr. D [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:19 pm ]
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You've been doing spectacular for internet game. However, the connotation connected with "dating" is something that can make or break the tension between you two. Don't label your relationship with her by asking her out on a date when the occasion doesn't call for it.

Dates are for girls who you have already had sex with, girls that you already respect. However, if they haven't earned the respect, then they feel cheap and don't want to hang around you. They have to earn your trust before you can trust them on going out on a date, you follow?

It's been a while since I've posted on this topic, so I don't know how you're doing with your target. If anything, it will be good reference for next time this situation comes up.

Cheers ;)

Author:  madmadmax [ Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:23 pm ]
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Why do you need her so bad anyway? Get a new hotter girl...

Author:  AGDubz [ Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:50 am ]
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Your internet game is tight. But don't call it a date.....just ask if they wanna chill sometime but make it seem like its not a big deal.

Author:  brary [ Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:59 am ]
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you're trying to hard man. yeah you "try" to keep the frame but she doesn't give a fuck. Also, you kinda scared her away with the date part cuz now she knows ur interested, and thats why you keep texting her...not to get to know her yadadamean? sorry to burst your bubble..but keep persisting until you get flat out rejected.

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