First hello everybody, second my english isn't that good. I'm from the Netherlands.
ok so ive got this problem,
i'm kinda inlove with a girl, she's about a 9. And a realy hard nut to crack!!
I know her about a year now, she was in my introduction group when i entered the university.
i feel like i had a chance while in a college party during the introduction. She kinda danced against me, but i wanted to take it slow then. Becouse 5 of her friends where around and i didn't want to get between them.
Ok so there are 5 girls, the first one J. i know her from my high school (about 3 years now). The other 4 i know just from the beginning of this year, from the introduction week.
Ok so, at first my target E. and a girlfriend of her S. thought i was going afther this girl A. Also a frend of my target. They confronted me with that and i told them no, she is just a realy good friend (witch she is, she is realy cool!! could be a nice winggirl!).
A few weeks afther the introduction, i went out with the 5 girls to a bar, and this girlfriend of my target, S. asked me what i would to if she would kiss me right there.
What i said then was realy BAD!! "What's in it for me?" (ouch!!)
But i said it becouse i didn't want to kiss her infront of my target girl.
We are still realy good friends, i think she might still have feelings for me though.
About my relation ship with my target. I feel like she is holding back, I am realy good friends with the 4 other girls of her "pack". They all like me very much. I even had dinner with them all twice now.
However my target girl is still a bit distant, i teksted her a few times (didn't get any replies, or just 1)
The same thing happens on MSN, i talk almost no response. But occasionally i break through, and we talk for a couple of hours. (you might see my problem, she is driving me crazy. Like show me your interrested or just leave me out cold.) This has been going on for a few months now, on and off contacting. But i just found out, this might have something to do with her phone. It connects to her wireless internet in her room automaticaly. And her phone laggs allot becouse of that. (as you can see im softening the blow for myself
)Then i did something realy stupid, i got drunk at a party and we were going to take a picture with our whole group, my mates and the pack of girls including my target. When the photo was taken, i kinda put my hand on her ass. I didn't touch it, but it looked like it on the picture.(yes i am an idiot!)
Eventualy i talked to her about it, she could laugh about it. She didn't put the picture on myspace though. Her friends did at their own space. (i think she might be a bit emberrased).
A few weeks back i went out to a bar with 3 girls of the pack, including my target.
a few laughs a bit of flirting, and then she started to touch me more. I mean in a way like "hey can i just hold on to you my boots are a bit loose"(while she fastens them, she holds my shoulder.)
We held hands while "traveling" through the bar to the dance floor. Other things i do for her are things like, if she stands in a "pathway" and people start bumping into her we switch places, so she is now leaning against the bar and im taking all the "punishment". A bit of that going on through the night, i was confronted with a class mate of mine. A girl witch i think likes me, she is fine and good looking but im here for only one thing.... My target girl!!
So a bit of flirting with her, trying to make my target jealous. Witch i think i accompliced a bit, becouse she asked later on where i knew her from etc. i told her it was just a class mate and nothing else. Later that night it was time to go home, so i went with her and a girlfriend "S." from her pack.
S. had to go the other way home, so i took my target girl home. I went up to her room, to get my cote, becouse i gave it to her in the beginning of the evening. We sad down and talked for about 45 mins. just the normal little stuff to talk about, school, friends etc.(she was realy comfortable around me, she sad on the bed i was on the couch about 3-4 feet apart.) Eventually i said i think i might go home, it is starting to get late. So 3 kisses on the cheeks and goodbye.
later that week we talked on msn again for about an hour, how things were going etc. all very nice but not enough if you know what i mean.
I realy do not know if i am in the damn friend zone, or if im still a regular guy she just knows(still the opportunity to aply PUA techniekes).
Later this week we will have our universities ending party, she will be there aswell.
The thing is, if this wasn't clear to you by now, i would realy like to date her, however I am afraid of the other 4 girls of her pack. That they might come between us, or even worse that i might become between my target and her friends.(witch are pretty close friends to me too now)
I would like some guys to help me please.
Thanks very much for your attention, if you have any questions about my relation ship to my target or her "pack" that might help you, to help me. Just ask!!
Thanks and hope to hear from you guys!!
. Ill try to escalate a bit more and flirt with other girls.
) 
. Ill try.