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Author:  FriendlyCoolDude [ Wed May 19, 2010 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  was i too aggresive
Today i went to a super store to open a set. Saw cute employee arranging the men's deo product in shelf. The store was not much crowded. I casually went up to her and had following converstaions:
Me: is this where you put the discounted products?
She:yes. The other shelf has all the products which are not on discount.
[ I already had visited the other shelf]
Me: oh.. is that so? I am looking for a good men deo and am not able to find a good one. Do you mind helping me out on the other side.. i can wait...
She: ok.. sure..

she took couple of minutes arranging her few items and walked me to other shelf.. I looked confused and asked for her opinion. she pulled one axe deo and she goes:
she: i think this one is good.
she sprays that in air..
Me: eeww.. it smells more lilke sweet smell...
She sprays another on her hand and ask me to smell her hand..
Me: now.. you smell like a man...:))
we both were laughing..
she sprays another deo on hand.. and I tell her that is spciy, chocolatey etc..
than we kind of slow down.. and she asks to go back to her old shelf.
Me: Ok.. i will follow you and pick something from that shelf.. if i do not like it.. than i would return it.
she: ok.
I pick something.. shake her hand.. and leave....
Write my phone number on paper .. come back amd tell her..
me: i forgot to mention that i enjoyed your compay so much today.. i was wodnering if we can do this again..
she: just looks taken back.. with eyes wide open [ neitjher Yes nor NO]
Me: Ok.. lets do one thing.. i wou give you my number and you call me..
i walk out and tell her.. that i really enjoyed her company .. and we should do this again.. gave her thumbs up.. she said thanks.. and i walked out.

Appeciate if all the PUA experts can give their opinions .. about what i did wrong, whet i did right.. where do i need to improve..
Author:  Dr_Van_Nostrand [ Mon May 24, 2010 3:39 pm ]
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dude, I probably am not the best person to answer your questions because I did the same mistake today. I met this girl at the gym, she is HB 7. Couple mistakes I made that I hate myself for. I didn't take my phone with me. After working out, I was going for a number close and instead of the asking for her number, I asked her to give me a call instead. The point being, don't give her your number, because she will not call. You have to ask for her number. Atleast, that way you have some control of the follow up. Going back and seeing her will be creepy for her.

According to Mystery, don't waste time following up if she doens't call and don't be surprised, because she won't. Learn from your mistakes and move on, thats what I am doing.

Fuck I hate myself for not having my phoen with me.....Dang.....Lesson learnt !
Author:  crawlinkingsnake [ Fri May 28, 2010 4:14 am ]
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I also have to agree with Nostrand...always get their number.

Also Im not an expert on this (or a journeyman for that matter) But I have read the Mystery Method and I believe Gambler said this also. If you have a reason to meet up again she will be less likely to flake on you. For instance, if you both like acting, tell her about about an improv club around you or for art an art gallery...

But in order to do this you have to build rapport i.e. build some common ground. Just making her laugh and then telling her that you enjoyed her time seems to be a form of pedestaling her. I wouldnt even give her that within what appeared to be between A1 and A2.

But besides that I really love you opener and will definitely use it in that scenario.
Author:  El Hombre [ Fri May 28, 2010 6:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: was i too aggresive
Quote:
Today i went to a super store to open a set. Saw cute employee arranging the men's deo product in shelf. The store was not much crowded. I casually went up to her and had following converstaions:
Me: is this where you put the discounted products?
She:yes. The other shelf has all the products which are not on discount.
[ I already had visited the other shelf]
Me: oh.. is that so? I am looking for a good men deo and am not able to find a good one. Do you mind helping me out on the other side.. i can wait...
She: ok.. sure..

she took couple of minutes arranging her few items and walked me to other shelf.. I looked confused and asked for her opinion. she pulled one axe deo and she goes:
she: i think this one is good.
she sprays that in air..
Me: eeww.. it smells more lilke sweet smell...
She sprays another on her hand and ask me to smell her hand..
Me: now.. you smell like a man...:))
we both were laughing..
she sprays another deo on hand.. and I tell her that is spciy, chocolatey etc..
than we kind of slow down.. and she asks to go back to her old shelf.
Me: Ok.. i will follow you and pick something from that shelf.. if i do not like it.. than i would return it.
she: ok.
I pick something.. shake her hand.. and leave....
Write my phone number on paper .. come back amd tell her..
me: i forgot to mention that i enjoyed your compay so much today.. i was wodnering if we can do this again..
she: just looks taken back.. with eyes wide open [ neitjher Yes nor NO]
Me: Ok.. lets do one thing.. i wou give you my number and you call me..
i walk out and tell her.. that i really enjoyed her company .. and we should do this again.. gave her thumbs up.. she said thanks.. and i walked out.

Appeciate if all the PUA experts can give their opinions .. about what i did wrong, whet i did right.. where do i need to improve..
pua don't give telephone number. you screwed up here, this line ''Ok.. lets do one thing.. i wou give you my number and you call me.. i walk out and tell her.. that i really enjoyed her company .. and we should do this again.. gave her thumbs up.. she said thanks.. and i walked out''. you come too needy! you can try this instead: gaze at her from head to foot slowly (with animal desire stop for a few seconds at her breast and genital part) and foot to head followed by saying ''you can be a good friend'' (nodding your head a little bit, it's like giving her your approval). to close, you may say: i wish there's a way we can continue this conversation. most probably she will give you her phone number, if not... you say this: listen, i got to go, my friends are waiting outside (hand her your cellphone) enter your name and number, i'll get back to you when i'm not busy.
I hope this help, i'm not to good in english but i'm sure you know what i want to convey in this letter. Good Luck Mate!

El Hombre
Author:  TheTruthPUA [ Fri May 28, 2010 6:53 am ]
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Too me the pick up part should of been more smooth, to me it seem like she didn't really leave being attracted to you.. its like u focused on the deo way too much... sale your and gain attraction... and lastly always do a number exchange, and have her put a nickname for u in her phone... so she will remember when u text or call later...
Author:  EscapingAFCism [ Fri May 28, 2010 7:02 am ]
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Get their number. It's really important because even if they do like you, hot women are complete AFCs when it comes to picking up. They are so used to men drooling over her and she just picks whatever seems the best.
Author:  El Hombre [ Fri May 28, 2010 7:38 am ]
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Quote:
dude, I probably am not the best person to answer your questions because I did the same mistake today. I met this girl at the gym, she is HB 7. Couple mistakes I made that I hate myself for. I didn't take my phone with me. After working out, I was going for a number close and instead of the asking for her number, I asked her to give me a call instead. The point being, don't give her your number, because she will not call. You have to ask for her number. Atleast, that way you have some control of the follow up. Going back and seeing her will be creepy for her.

According to Mystery, don't waste time following up if she doens't call and don't be surprised, because she won't. Learn from your mistakes and move on, thats what I am doing.

Fuck I hate myself for not having my phoen with me.....Dang.....Lesson learnt !
don't blame yourself, it's a part of learning. dating gurus and mpua screwed up sometimes too! but they know how to handle it, it's not a big deal!
Author:  loyalknicksfan [ Sun May 30, 2010 10:41 am ]
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ya.. you didn't make the interaction personal enough. that was your mistake... somewhere in the middle you should've gone direct and caught her off guard with a "ur cute," comment..

But props though.. you have lots of balls doing what you did.. I wouldn't be able to approach a woman at work like that.. ever..
Author:  jakelambert [ Sun May 30, 2010 12:00 pm ]
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"i was wodnering if we can do this again.. " sounds a bit weak.

I used to say "I wonder/was wondering if" all the time... now, not anymore.

ask yourself: would Brad Pitt need to say "i was wodnering if we can do this again.."?

and it's not about looks.. it's about developing that character...

anyways

Best of luck!
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