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Author:  bits [ Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:31 pm ]
Post subject:  When the bitch-shield is sky high
Yesterday I was at this party where I met lots of people from my sports club. People I'm already befriended with.
And among them, there's this girl (let's call her A.), who starts calling me out on this situation last week, when they thought I was hitting on my friends GF (needless to say I wasn't).

So I explained her how I thought about that situation, but she kept talking about it, saying blablabla she turns you on, and you're in love with this other girl (let's call her B.) blabla. It seemed like some kind of shit test to me.
So I said 'yeah, touching her ass really makes me horny (at this point I touched A's ass) and I'm really in love with B but I do think B's sister is way hotter'.
And A. went on and on, dunno what she said but I got a little annoyed, so I responded:
'I like you being jaleous. It shows your human side'.

Now I'm not sure whether this was a good neg, or that it was too rude?
IMHO, it gives her 3 possibilities:
1) She starts laughing and punching me (most likely with HBs, which she isn't)
2) She's offended and walks away. She'll probably rethink what's happened, concluding that she went out of line by talking the entire time about my friends GF.
3) She's shocked and says something like 'wow, so you think I'm not all too human?' (which A did)

After that, we continued conversation for a short period of time, we split up and eventually we both left separately. Not important since I wasn't gaming her.
Altogether she didn't seem all too offended so I guess everything is fine and I said the right thing. But still I'm not sure whether this was a good neg or just plain rude? (and yes, I know I shouldn't neg a non-HB, but her bitch shield was quite up high so she could take it)
Author:  bits [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:16 pm ]
Post subject: 
Wut? Nobody?
Not a single PUA ready to share his opinion with the world?
Author:  omans02 [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: When the bitch-shield is sky high
Quote:
Yesterday I was at this party where I met lots of people from my sports club. People I'm already befriended with.
And among them, there's this girl (let's call her A.), who starts calling me out on this situation last week, when they thought I was hitting on my friends GF (needless to say I wasn't).

So I explained her how I thought about that situation, but she kept talking about it, saying blablabla she turns you on, and you're in love with this other girl (let's call her B.) blabla. It seemed like some kind of shit test to me.
So I said 'yeah, touching her ass really makes me horny (at this point I touched A's ass) and I'm really in love with B but I do think B's sister is way hotter'.
And A. went on and on, dunno what she said but I got a little annoyed, so I responded:
'I like you being jaleous. It shows your human side'.

Now I'm not sure whether this was a good neg, or that it was too rude?
IMHO, it gives her 3 possibilities:
1) She starts laughing and punching me (most likely with HBs, which she isn't)
2) She's offended and walks away. She'll probably rethink what's happened, concluding that she went out of line by talking the entire time about my friends GF.
3) She's shocked and says something like 'wow, so you think I'm not all too human?' (which A did)

After that, we continued conversation for a short period of time, we split up and eventually we both left separately. Not important since I wasn't gaming her.
Altogether she didn't seem all too offended so I guess everything is fine and I said the right thing. But still I'm not sure whether this was a good neg or just plain rude? (and yes, I know I shouldn't neg a non-HB, but her bitch shield was quite up high so she could take it)
Hey Bits! take it easy, I think most guys here must have been studying your situation to see what best to apropriate or say, ok?

I think negging her was a good decision and move made in the right direction, sometime is good to neg non-HB when they act like one to keep them at bay, from what I read from your post she is trying to portray u in a negative light which itself a neg in a way , again its sound like a good neg and somehow cocky to me.

1. u showed her that she is jealous about u chasing your friend GF
2. u initiating kino with her proved u are confident and in control of the your game.
3. she laughing and punching u indicate u gave a good reply to her harsh or jealous offensiveness.
4.2nd and 3rd possibilities u stated shows u took over control of the conversation and put paid to her offensiveness.
5. you negging her shows she need a more solid game to get u interested in her if at all u would.

I think there is nothing to get worried about, If u are interesting in her just keep gaming her till u get what u want. Note that women being what they are, a non HB could assume she is so hot that the world would fall at her feet, to lower her bitchshield, a neg would be needed to put paid to her fantacies. hope this help a bit.
Author:  bits [ Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:02 pm ]
Post subject: 
Thanks man. I was just surprised (not irritated) by the fact that nobody replied. Guess it made me a little bit insecure.

I do think I have to clear up my start-post:
The 3 situations I sketched are just the 3 ways in which a woman could respond in that situation. It was some kind of analysis I made up.
It's not like she did all of them. The girl took option 3: I said she jaleous, she shocked.

Also: I'm not interested in her, but I did have to take action so that she liked me enough to not-gossip about me.
I do think you're right on the 'she thinks she's hot'-thing. Which she isn't. But I don't want to end up in the hospital so I'm not gonna tell her that...
Author:  Smartbomb [ Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:50 am ]
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High bitch shield means her self-perception of social value is high, maybe even higher than it really is just based on her attractiveness, body language, etc. If she's very beautiful, has a strong personality, and you think she can handle it, a freezeout is more effective than a harsh neg.

Become the center of attention with her friends, position your body so that she is slightly behind you, partially cut off from the rest of the group. If everyone is standing in a circle in the club, move a little into the center of the circle so that your body language communicates isolation to her. Then pull out some of your best material and get everyone else rolling on the floor. She'll feel that twinge of "shit I'm not the center of attention anymore", and then after a second you can bring her back into the group with a gentle neg. The freezeout tension is relieved, your DHV spikes your social value, and hers has been shaved down a couple of notches.
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