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| Author: | Patrick921 [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | transition from approach and opening |
I'm a bit confused on how to transition from the opening to the mid-game talk. What to talk about or how to transition to a story should I just tell my story/ routine after I do the opening? |
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| Author: | Dow Jones [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:15 am ] |
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I have the same problem bro. What I do is approach w/ an opinion opener, throw in a FTC (False Time Constraint) then after the opener convo is complete, I throw in a powerful neg Afterwards, u can easily transition to another routine. One thing u have to realize is that chicks don't realize when you're transitioning. You can simply go into a different convo as long as it has to do with something you were previously talking about. Lesson: 1) Open "INDIRECTLY" (i.e. Approach with an 'opinion' or 'situational' opener) 2) Throw in a FTC (i.e. "I can only stay a minute, my friends are for me...) 3) Watch her response and body language, possibly neg on something she says 4) Transition by turning a specific keyword into a new convo or observing something about her that you can spin into a attraction-building routine. 5) Sprinkle negs in between ur convo and flirt w/ her by misinterpreting comments she says to u |
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| Author: | Patrick921 [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:07 am ] |
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aight so pick apart what she's saying and try and bring up a conversation on it? |
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| Author: | Ethanol [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:54 am ] |
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I struggle with this as well. "Transitioning". My mind kinda goes blank and there we all of a sudden have an awkward situation. I like the advice on something she says and starting a new topic on that. PUA DowJones one thing Im wondering though about your advice is the neg. Shouldnt this be after the transitioning? I thought this was meant at the start of the attraction stage. Mind you I read Magic Bullets.. E. |
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| Author: | Dow Jones [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:39 am ] |
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@Patrick921 Yes, exactly. Draw upon something she says and spin it into a new convo/routine. @Ethanol Different people will tell you different things about when to neg. I use the neg as the first transition. For example Me: "Let me get ur perspective on something...I've only got a minute though, my friends are waiting for me at (location)" [Don't wait for her response, just go into opener] Me: (sms msg or jealous gf opener...look them up) Her: "Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah" After the initial opener convo has ended, I'll then progress with: Me: "hahaha, OMG, you've got something on your tooth" (laughing hysterically) Her: "OMG, Really" Before she has time to reach a mirror, tell her: Me: "Here just do this... (lick ur teeth or rub ur tooth w/ ur hand) Her: "Thanks, a lot... this is so embarrassing" Me: "well look on the bright side, at least your teeth have as much fashion sense as you do Her: (Laughing) After all of this she'll obviously forget what you were previously talking about, allowing you to come up w/ something completely different to discuss. Also, from this point forward you can sprinkle in different negs on her or even funnily refer back to her tooth. For the next 15-20 minutes, you've then got plug-in some attraction and comfort building routines before you #close, k-close, or f-close. This is just an example, but I think u know where I'm getting at |
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| Author: | Scum17 [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:58 am ] |
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Honestly the hardest part for most people is the open. Obviously if a girl is collected and talking to you, just make conversation with her. One thing I've continuously experienced with girls, is they really don't want to shut up. You got to ask questions that she has to answer to ex. what do you do for school *if shes a college girl*, *work*, I've encountered the ones that barely talk, I usually throw a comment at them like "wow would have thought the cute types would be more talkative then this! geez! |
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| Author: | Patrick921 [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:33 am ] |
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@ DowJones what is the the jealous girlfriend routine. I remember hearing part of it and planned on using it this weekend. me and the guys are getting a room for the kalahri(water park. I have been trying to get a routine together so I can not be like o shit! I don't have a routine and think of one on the shot(which i probably will anyways) |
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| Author: | Dow Jones [ Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:55 pm ] |
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@Scum 17 I assume you're suggesting we just "be ourselves". That shit doesn't work. Otherwise, we wouldn't need to come to this forum. When you're just starting out, it's good to memorize some canned openers, routines, and gimmicks. @Patrick921 Here's the http://www.seductiontuition.com/neil-st ... riend.html |
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| Author: | Jayshine [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:06 am ] |
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a transition is just simply an excuse to keep talking nothing amazing has to happen... >do you guys work together >cold read >are you guys sisters If I use a low risk opener I then use a high risk transition.... ex: Hey do you have the time she replies I got a watch... I really just wanted to see if you were friendly..you seemed scary from a distance. lol I find this amusing |
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