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Author:  young_gun [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:14 am ]
Post subject:  first set. no kino no close.. i need help
so im new to the forum and if there is any constructive criticism aka, where to post, what not to say. please feel free. ill be the first to say im no forum pro.

to start.
my friend got me into the game a few weeks ago. he told me stories of the pros and pointed out my cocky-funny approach and natural peacocking and got my interested. i read up on a few tactics and felt like i unknowingly applied a lot of this already. ive never been bad with girls. im fearless with the approach, but my mid game is suffering.

the scenario.
we went to a local soft serve place tonight in the college town we live in. mega babe spot for sure, as usual. a group of 6 local college soccer players walked in. 2 HB8s and their possie. we opened with the "friends girlfriend got pissed about pictured of his ex under the bed, would you be mad if that happened to you." routine. they bit
while playing to the whole group we boosted one another rapport and DHV with army stories and helping family and such. then i went into the Best friends test between the two 8's, worked like a charm, everyone in the group was having fun.

the convo died down and i kept things fun, playing games, asking questions, keeping people laughing with local bar stories and commenting on one of the HB8's hometown in jersey, making references about "fist pumping like champs"

they had to leave to i asked for the second HB8's # and she replied with a great smile and a simple, sorry i dont give my number out. i smiled and bid everyone farewell.

i feel like things were going good but there were things i should have done in the mid game phase that needed work, and now that ive had a taste i want to try more.

i appriciate the advice and look forward to being a better midgame man.

-young_gun
Author:  abs [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:03 am ]
Post subject: 
Hey dude,

Nice work! You have balls and you seem to be doing well. Since you say your mid game is lacking, you should read this post I made here a couple of days back: teasing-and-running-out-of-things-to-sa ... highlight=

It's on what you can do to not run out of conversations. Hope you find it helpful.

As far as getting the phone number is concerned, did you set the frame right by giving the second girl IOIs, before asking for her phone number? When she said no to give out her phone #, were you honest that you thought she was beautiful and interesting? Did you offer your phone number instead or ask for her email?
Author:  0rion [ Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:52 am ]
Post subject:  Just a few quick suggestions.
First don't be discouraged it sounds like you’re doing great just keep it up and you will do fine!

I can offer is experience strength and hope. I'm not telling you what do all I can do is share what has worked for me.

Pre-approach:
Start with the end in mind. "The HB9 is my target I WILL get her number".

before I strike (3 second rule) I say in a whisper: When I give this woman the privilege of my presence it will be the best thing that happen in life ever!

Approach:
First group hits if your soloing are epically difficult. Don’t try to maintain the conversion alone and hold the focus of the group alone for a prolonged period. You need Allies fast! Tops I have 5 min alone out there.

Notice is what members of the group are HELPING move the conversation forward and what ones are blockers.

Focus attention on the allies but keep your target somewhat isolated from the conversion as she sees her friends becoming more interested you her interest level will rise fast.

Build interest and value it sounds t me from your story that you were doing a good job with the approach but where you’re having trouble is in the value / attraction building portion of the hit.

Your whole aura should radiate that this is these girls luckiest day now that you have arrived. ESPECIALLY the one you have chosen to receive the give of your presence.

Once you have establish your male control factors (Confidences, Self Control, Challenge) things should be unfolding well by now they should be feeling your essence and skill as PA.

It sounds to me like you had that going for you when the group was enjoying your presence you pull and isolation move on your target.

If the target has been a has earned it I will use “The gift” close (currently my favorite close)

“Since you have been a good girl its time for you to receive your gift.” Deep eye contact and give her the "come hither stare" and come closer hand motion, Once pulled aside stand close and say “do you feel that” if she has come this far she has high interest level and is under your spell and wants to play. ask her “Do you want to feel this again?”. If she is good and says yes.
The most one of the more impressive responses I receive was “O god yes please!”
Hand her a pen and small piece of paper she will get the point it’s for her phone number.

If done with the right intention it has MIRACULOUS results. The whole world, her friends, family, her AFC guy friends, the angry blocker boyfriend will fall off the face of the earth. An it’s just you and your target! Enjoy the moment.
I’m getting goose bumps just describing it!

Repeated this practice, The results looked at without judgment will yield faster growth.

Hope that helps

Play on,
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Author:  young_gun [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:22 pm ]
Post subject: 
so i followed some advice, used some kino, amped up my mid game using the stuff you guys showed me and last night i got a kClose and a #close with a HB8 who was a 10 in most countries. haha. appreciate it guys
Author:  abs [ Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:47 am ]
Post subject: 
Way to go brother! Glad to be of service :D
Author:  0rion [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Excellent work.
Excellent work. Share your field report with us.

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Author:  redroooster [ Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:56 pm ]
Post subject: 
Sounds like you are doing great.

These things take time and practice. Some people will pick them up quicker than others.

I remember which I first tried to kino it felt strange and I didn't know what I was doing. Now it's second nature and I use it when talking to girls who are just friends.

Having female friends is great as you can practice - you can even tell them that's what you are doing. Girls love PUA-friends who hit on other girls.
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