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Author:  sacredstoryteller [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  I need to learn how to close.

This is my first post ever, so be easy guys. i just joined about ten minutes ago. I'll tell you a about myself so you know where I'm coming from. 18 years old, from Vancouver, tall blond good lookin guy, gifted musician (toot toot) smart, fairly charming. I'm very comfortable around girls, lots of girls in my family. I can do the cocky/funny stuff pretty good, mixed in with grand philosophical. I'm more funny than cocky, more witty, but when I'm cocky I'm COCKY! but still funny. I think something I should exploit is my sensitive side. I could be a psychologist, or so I'd like to think. I'm very good at relating to people and taking what they give me and shooting it back at them in a different eye, almost relieving themselves to themselves (I hope this doesn't sound completely egotistic and snobby..) I have some problems approaching, but I've been doing better lately. Practicing on waitresses/secretaries, shit like that, is beneficial, but ultimately a let down. They just wanna tip. One line I really like is "You know, I just have to say, You are absolutely beautiful" I say that when I truly mean it, so I've only used it once or twice. I probably coulda done it more but I either didn't have the guts or I didn't think she's the typa girl that'd really dig it. It's the beautiful one that think they're pretty, but don't know they're actually drop dead gorgeous that I think that works best on. I used the best friends routine one time, straight from the book, and it worked! I couldn't believe the reaction I got. Every time the girls looked at eachother they just giggled up. One of them actually described to the other, while I was in earshot range, about how I was so smooth and was making her wet. I couldn't believe it!

Ok Ok Ok, heres the actual problem. As much as I can maybe not attract but interest women, I find it really hard to seize the opportunity when its presented. It's not like I've never been laid, and the girls I usually get are pretty top notch, (8.75 at least, well, at least girlfriends HA! everyones had a fat chick) I just can't seem to go out, meet a girl, close, arrange too meet up, meet up, develop rapport, create connection, blah blah. Sure I can meet them, flirt with them, make fun of them, make them laugh, fuck with their brain, look at them seductively, (I've been really using my eyes a lot lately) probably make them horny, but theres something that I'm missing. It's like Mortal Kombat, I can't FINISH HIM!! When I was younger, and still a bit today, whenever I was meeting up with a chick, even my girlfriend of two months, I would always be afraid that once I got there I'd have nothing to say and our conversation would just end, and it would be completely awkward. Should I prepare stories and lines before I meet up with someone? I do kinda do that nowadays, basic ideas but not really full fledged stories. I wanna learn how to bring back a girl to my place. I just moved out from my parents house and I haven't had a girl over yet.

Another thing, I have this ex girlfriend and we get along so well. She brke up with her boyfriend a little while ago, and I was there for her and talked her through. We were cuddling under blankets, lots more kino, and we were just clicking. I didn't wanna take it too fast with her and scare her away. Then she tells me she met someone, and I'm like WTF!?! You got broken up 5 days ago bitch!. Didn't really say that, but, played it cool. "oh wow, how'd you meet? blah blah" and the next day was new years, she told me to call her, so I did, and I ended up just like ranting my feelings to her cause my friend said 'just tell her what you just told me" fuck. AFC move Now, I know she cares about me a lot, we have a greatt connection, but I don't know if I should just peace out or what. She doesn't say she reciprocates the feelings, but I can tell when we're together. Its fuckin magnetic man. So yea, don't know what to do, just playin it down right now. We've talked since then, it went pretty well. She showed me her poetry.

I'd really appreciate you guys helping me out with some advice. Hopefully there won't be too many codewords I don't understand. Sorry the post is so long.
Thanks



ps: I went to this birthday at a Backpackers Pub and somehow got myself at a table with three Gooorgeous Australians, most beautiful girls in the room by far. I'd met one of them very briefly before, and talking to them was a breeze, I was at their table for at least 45 minutes, though I wouldn't say there weren't any hickups (one of them caught me looking down her shirt. I covered it up by loosely slicing my throat with my hand, giving her kind of a puzzled look and saying "No" almost like I was saying "No way" without the way, but a bit more direct. She didn't really question it. I was actually complimented on talking to them outside. I've never got that before. I kissed two other girls that night and randomly was allowed to grab some other chicks tits. I really don't know what was up with that, but I'll take it.

Author:  _Manna_ [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:22 pm ]
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i know you spent a lot of time writing that, but you can easily just go up to the Closing section of the boards.

Luckily though, this board seems to have a lot more members who are willing to spoon feed, so you may get the correct help if you're lucky.

Author:  kalm7979 [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I need to learn how to close.

Quote:
This is my first post ever, so be easy guys. i just joined about ten minutes ago. I'll tell you a about myself so you know where I'm coming from. 18 years old, from Vancouver, tall blond good lookin guy, gifted musician (toot toot) smart, fairly charming. I'm very comfortable around girls, lots of girls in my family. I can do the cocky/funny stuff pretty good, mixed in with grand philosophical. I'm more funny than cocky, more witty, but when I'm cocky I'm COCKY! but still funny. I think something I should exploit is my sensitive side. I could be a psychologist, or so I'd like to think. I'm very good at relating to people and taking what they give me and shooting it back at them in a different eye, almost relieving themselves to themselves (I hope this doesn't sound completely egotistic and snobby..) I have some problems approaching, but I've been doing better lately. Practicing on waitresses/secretaries, shit like that, is beneficial, but ultimately a let down. They just wanna tip. One line I really like is "You know, I just have to say, You are absolutely beautiful" I say that when I truly mean it, so I've only used it once or twice. I probably coulda done it more but I either didn't have the guts or I didn't think she's the typa girl that'd really dig it. It's the beautiful one that think they're pretty, but don't know they're actually drop dead gorgeous that I think that works best on. I used the best friends routine one time, straight from the book, and it worked! I couldn't believe the reaction I got. Every time the girls looked at eachother they just giggled up. One of them actually described to the other, while I was in earshot range, about how I was so smooth and was making her wet. I couldn't believe it!

Ok Ok Ok, heres the actual problem. As much as I can maybe not attract but interest women, I find it really hard to seize the opportunity when its presented. It's not like I've never been laid, and the girls I usually get are pretty top notch, (8.75 at least, well, at least girlfriends HA! everyones had a fat chick) I just can't seem to go out, meet a girl, close, arrange too meet up, meet up, develop rapport, create connection, blah blah. Sure I can meet them, flirt with them, make fun of them, make them laugh, fuck with their brain, look at them seductively, (I've been really using my eyes a lot lately) probably make them horny, but theres something that I'm missing. It's like Mortal Kombat, I can't FINISH HIM!! When I was younger, and still a bit today, whenever I was meeting up with a chick, even my girlfriend of two months, I would always be afraid that once I got there I'd have nothing to say and our conversation would just end, and it would be completely awkward. Should I prepare stories and lines before I meet up with someone? I do kinda do that nowadays, basic ideas but not really full fledged stories. I wanna learn how to bring back a girl to my place. I just moved out from my parents house and I haven't had a girl over yet.

Another thing, I have this ex girlfriend and we get along so well. She brke up with her boyfriend a little while ago, and I was there for her and talked her through. We were cuddling under blankets, lots more kino, and we were just clicking. I didn't wanna take it too fast with her and scare her away. Then she tells me she met someone, and I'm like WTF!?! You got broken up 5 days ago bitch!. Didn't really say that, but, played it cool. "oh wow, how'd you meet? blah blah" and the next day was new years, she told me to call her, so I did, and I ended up just like ranting my feelings to her cause my friend said 'just tell her what you just told me" fuck. AFC move Now, I know she cares about me a lot, we have a greatt connection, but I don't know if I should just peace out or what. She doesn't say she reciprocates the feelings, but I can tell when we're together. Its fuckin magnetic man. So yea, don't know what to do, just playin it down right now. We've talked since then, it went pretty well. She showed me her poetry.

I'd really appreciate you guys helping me out with some advice. Hopefully there won't be too many codewords I don't understand. Sorry the post is so long.
Thanks



ps: I went to this birthday at a Backpackers Pub and somehow got myself at a table with three Gooorgeous Australians, most beautiful girls in the room by far. I'd met one of them very briefly before, and talking to them was a breeze, I was at their table for at least 45 minutes, though I wouldn't say there weren't any hickups (one of them caught me looking down her shirt. I covered it up by loosely slicing my throat with my hand, giving her kind of a puzzled look and saying "No" almost like I was saying "No way" without the way, but a bit more direct. She didn't really question it. I was actually complimented on talking to them outside. I've never got that before. I kissed two other girls that night and randomly was allowed to grab some other chicks tits. I really don't know what was up with that, but I'll take it.
so...you ARE comfortable around women....? just jump in and go caveman! forget about the ex-gf, she's just a mental obstacle. just bringing her up is altering your game.

i would like to personally let you know, from personal experience, that talking to a waitress/bartender is considered 'approaching', but it is absolutely NOT. if one of these girls blows you off, it's not your fault. so don't even consider them in your 'open' experimentation. they are approached to a point of mastery in defensive retort. they are PAID to 'approach' YOU!

you're on the right track...just don't be afraid to push the ticket physically.

Author:  C&F_natural [ Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I need to learn how to close.

Quote:
Quote:
This is my first post ever, so be easy guys. i just joined about ten minutes ago. I'll tell you a about myself so you know where I'm coming from. 18 years old, from Vancouver, tall blond good lookin guy, gifted musician (toot toot) smart, fairly charming. I'm very comfortable around girls, lots of girls in my family. I can do the cocky/funny stuff pretty good, mixed in with grand philosophical. I'm more funny than cocky, more witty, but when I'm cocky I'm COCKY! but still funny. I think something I should exploit is my sensitive side. I could be a psychologist, or so I'd like to think. I'm very good at relating to people and taking what they give me and shooting it back at them in a different eye, almost relieving themselves to themselves (I hope this doesn't sound completely egotistic and snobby..) I have some problems approaching, but I've been doing better lately. Practicing on waitresses/secretaries, shit like that, is beneficial, but ultimately a let down. They just wanna tip. One line I really like is "You know, I just have to say, You are absolutely beautiful" I say that when I truly mean it, so I've only used it once or twice. I probably coulda done it more but I either didn't have the guts or I didn't think she's the typa girl that'd really dig it. It's the beautiful one that think they're pretty, but don't know they're actually drop dead gorgeous that I think that works best on. I used the best friends routine one time, straight from the book, and it worked! I couldn't believe the reaction I got. Every time the girls looked at eachother they just giggled up. One of them actually described to the other, while I was in earshot range, about how I was so smooth and was making her wet. I couldn't believe it!

Ok Ok Ok, heres the actual problem. As much as I can maybe not attract but interest women, I find it really hard to seize the opportunity when its presented. It's not like I've never been laid, and the girls I usually get are pretty top notch, (8.75 at least, well, at least girlfriends HA! everyones had a fat chick) I just can't seem to go out, meet a girl, close, arrange too meet up, meet up, develop rapport, create connection, blah blah. Sure I can meet them, flirt with them, make fun of them, make them laugh, fuck with their brain, look at them seductively, (I've been really using my eyes a lot lately) probably make them horny, but theres something that I'm missing. It's like Mortal Kombat, I can't FINISH HIM!! When I was younger, and still a bit today, whenever I was meeting up with a chick, even my girlfriend of two months, I would always be afraid that once I got there I'd have nothing to say and our conversation would just end, and it would be completely awkward. Should I prepare stories and lines before I meet up with someone? I do kinda do that nowadays, basic ideas but not really full fledged stories. I wanna learn how to bring back a girl to my place. I just moved out from my parents house and I haven't had a girl over yet.

Another thing, I have this ex girlfriend and we get along so well. She brke up with her boyfriend a little while ago, and I was there for her and talked her through. We were cuddling under blankets, lots more kino, and we were just clicking. I didn't wanna take it too fast with her and scare her away. Then she tells me she met someone, and I'm like WTF!?! You got broken up 5 days ago bitch!. Didn't really say that, but, played it cool. "oh wow, how'd you meet? blah blah" and the next day was new years, she told me to call her, so I did, and I ended up just like ranting my feelings to her cause my friend said 'just tell her what you just told me" fuck. AFC move Now, I know she cares about me a lot, we have a greatt connection, but I don't know if I should just peace out or what. She doesn't say she reciprocates the feelings, but I can tell when we're together. Its fuckin magnetic man. So yea, don't know what to do, just playin it down right now. We've talked since then, it went pretty well. She showed me her poetry.

I'd really appreciate you guys helping me out with some advice. Hopefully there won't be too many codewords I don't understand. Sorry the post is so long.
Thanks



ps: I went to this birthday at a Backpackers Pub and somehow got myself at a table with three Gooorgeous Australians, most beautiful girls in the room by far. I'd met one of them very briefly before, and talking to them was a breeze, I was at their table for at least 45 minutes, though I wouldn't say there weren't any hickups (one of them caught me looking down her shirt. I covered it up by loosely slicing my throat with my hand, giving her kind of a puzzled look and saying "No" almost like I was saying "No way" without the way, but a bit more direct. She didn't really question it. I was actually complimented on talking to them outside. I've never got that before. I kissed two other girls that night and randomly was allowed to grab some other chicks tits. I really don't know what was up with that, but I'll take it.
so...you ARE comfortable around women....? just jump in and go caveman! forget about the ex-gf, she's just a mental obstacle. just bringing her up is altering your game.

i would like to personally let you know, from personal experience, that talking to a waitress/bartender is considered 'approaching', but it is absolutely NOT. if one of these girls blows you off, it's not your fault. so don't even consider them in your 'open' experimentation. they are approached to a point of mastery in defensive retort. they are PAID to 'approach' YOU!

you're on the right track...just don't be afraid to push the ticket physically.
I agree! You are so close to get where you need to be. I know it must be hard, but see your ex as something that was. Not something that is. And as you were telling us, you approached some fine looking woman there. My opinion, keep doing that!! It will help you build your confidence!

Good luck!

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