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Author:  diablo333 [ Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Serious mid-game help
Hey guys I feel like i am struggling in getting attraction from mostly all girls I meet. I don't have much of a problem opening and lots of girls think that I am pretty good looking, from what I have heard. However after opening with a girl I feel like the conversations go nowhere and the odd time that I ask for a number and get it she never usually texts back or just back with a conversation killer.

So I am asking that when talking to a girl that I just meet how can I start to take it to the next level, like excessive flirting and such. I always feel awkward when attempting to do this. Also how can I show that I am really interested in her without it seeming to creepy/blatantly obvious???
Author:  dw3llz [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:28 pm ]
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83 fucking views and no help? cmon now
KINO KINO KINO. i found that the most important part of my game is definitely the magic art of kino-escalation. from past experience i've read plenty of shit on kino but found the most successful form was of me being me, gentle face slap if she mouths off (laugh that off or ull fail), put ur arm around her and point to a random place and have a DHV story ready to back that shit up.

great way to escalate ur game is from a good opener about a memory, say "lets make a memory" take out ur camera or camera phone take a picture with her, no matter what, tell her the first one was weak cuz you KNOW she can do better than that, and tell her to make a cuter face or kiss ur cheek (100% success rate on my end of this one) and since ur phone's already out get that number and bounce, leave her wanting more.
Author:  Wick3d [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:53 pm ]
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Attraction isn't too hard once you get it down.
KINO is where the magic is. Once you reach the hook point you start using kino as fast as possible to rapidly escalate using whatever excuse, play fighting, checking jewelry or whatever. Try to DHV, the easiest way to do this is by negging her and making her feel somewhat self conious so she'll try to prove herself to you and as long as you can follow it through to the close you win, dont return too many IOI's by the way.
Author:  ross_mack [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:30 am ]
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Youve already had the balls 2 open a random girl. You kno theres a possibility of getting shut down so wait 4 it. Dont think oh no the convos going no where ill get a number and walk away. You wont get results, the last memory she'll have of you is wow that guy was kinda quiet and shy. If theres a 10 second pause of silence use a one liner like hey you have something in your teeth (but with a big grin on your face) she'll try 2 get it out then afta a couple of seconds you say i was messing with you, you both laugh and continue the conversation. if theres too long a pause of silence and its going horrible she will shut you down, till that happens its ok your still there with her. Engage her enough until the night ends spectacuarly or you get the boot. If that happens go up to the next girl and try again :)
Author:  Rome-EO [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:55 am ]
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do not kino on these girls... thats easily c2-c3... earlies i would do it is a3... im guessing you have no idea what im talking about. what you need to do my friend is read some attraction material. figure out how to do some push pull and some c/f some dhv stories establish preselection towards wemon and show your alpha status this will get you to your a2-a3 stage let me do a break down for you

a1- this is the aproch stage where you first meet and greet

a2- is having the girl develop attraction to you

a3- is where you show interest in girls

the reason there is no conversation being had through texting or phone calls is because your number closing during your aproch you have developt no report with these chicks and they dont have a fucking clue who you are. chicks are differnt then guys they have more of an ability to see people in an a sexual sense then a guy does so when your aproching and just asking for there phone number sure you might get it but its not going anywhere doesnt matter how good looking you are chances are your not aproching 5s and there not just gonna through themselfs at you.
Author:  dw3llz [ Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:17 am ]
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do not kino on these girls... thats easily c2-c3... earlies i would do it is a3... im guessing you have no idea what im talking about. what you need to do my friend is read some attraction material. figure out how to do some push pull and some c/f some dhv stories establish preselection towards wemon and show your alpha status this will get you to your a2-a3 stage let me do a break down for you

a1- this is the aproch stage where you first meet and greet

a2- is having the girl develop attraction to you

a3- is where you show interest in girls

the reason there is no conversation being had through texting or phone calls is because your number closing during your aproch you have developt no report with these chicks and they dont have a fucking clue who you are. chicks are differnt then guys they have more of an ability to see people in an a sexual sense then a guy does so when your aproching and just asking for there phone number sure you might get it but its not going anywhere doesnt matter how good looking you are chances are your not aproching 5s and there not just gonna through themselfs at you.
that ladder is completely ridiculous! kino whenever you feel comfortable, if your looking for a 100% step-by-step process go read up on a1,a2,a3 bull shit. if you wanna learn some stuff about attraction and be able to understand it, go out and try things, dont use a setup ladder of attack.
Author:  fresh83 [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:56 am ]
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im in the same boat as u exactly to the tee . im good looking i can get a open and if she got to know me shed love me.

the kino seems like good advice, i like the memories line.


my theory right now is to absorb as much canned material as possible not as my primary but, as emergency back up 2 keep things going .
Author:  dw3llz [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:36 pm ]
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canned material is ok but definitly go with natural game if u can!

the best canned transition is "How do you guys know each other?"
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