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Author:  tembo [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:17 am ]
Post subject:  NEW PICK UP METHOD ???
Lately i have started using this new technique that i started by accident, and its like this...

basically you force girl into lying to you about something she does by making it seem like the truth would be 'uncool', the tell her that you dont like liars because they have hurt you in the past and that you appreciate her honesty.

they start feeling guilt then end wanting to make it up to you because they feel so guilty.

Can anyone suggest how to develop this technique further ?
Author:  JR* [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:23 am ]
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'Your' technique is trying to inspire a negative emotion, why would you want that? It's practically making a girl feel bad so that they'll like you out of pity. It's inherently low value (in the sense of high value vs low value).

That being said, what part of that game are you using this in? To combat LMR, in the comfort stages? In attraction? It sounds like a harsh and cruel version of a freeze out, but from the sounds of it your trying to use it in comfort. By using it in comfort, don't you undermine the whole point of comfort, to get to know them, to build comfort around each other? If it is, doesn't this remove comfort by making her feel guilty.

Guilt is negative, people tend to attempt to avoid negative emotions, so unless you two are locked into seeing each other repeatedly, e.g. same social circles, then it has the possible effect of her not wanting to see you again, especially if you guys have known each other for a short period of time.

Remember man, there's a difference between having a frame that people want to be apart of and forcing your frame onto people. You don't want to be a little bitch trying to make her feel guilty about something. You want to have girls feel comfortable around you, you don't want them to feel that they have to qualify and lie to you. It just makes you seem like a dick.
Author:  tembo [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:27 pm ]
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when reading this you have to bear in mind that my persona is that cute girl next door but a male version lol

Well it's more of qulification if anything, after i made her feel ''guilty'', i could ask her anyting and she would answer because she felt like she had to make up for what she did. In my opinion the end justifies the means because we built such amazing trust because i allowed her to be so honest. In other words it leads to comfort.

i'v called passive qualification lol, because you are making her qualify herself to suit your ideal of the honest girl but without directly negging or CF about her being dishonest.

it also comes into 'hoop theory' and makes me the prize during the interaction, the sky's the limit with this ''guilt'' principle.

i wanted to ask someone before i take this idea further to make sure it is not morally wrong. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :D :P
Author:  Chief [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:39 pm ]
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While I do think that it's a bad idea to use and abuse negative emotions in a pickup, I am intrigued. I don't think I've ever seen any technique like this before.
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