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| Author: | osa [ Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Am I Negging/Qualifying Too Much? |
in my game lately, I'm trying to suspend going into the "comfort" stage (all the getting to know you questions) until mutual attraction has been established, and some qualifying has been done. thing is, I feel like I have been relying (on dates, on the phone, and in texting) a little too much on negging (I have alot of fun teasing girls) and trying to frame the conversation in terms of the girl proving herself, her worth, etc to me. Problem is, I don't feel its actually working in building attraction in the girl for me. I dont sense her liking me more and more. And because mutual attraction hasnt been established, I resist all the comfort stuff when girls try to go there, cause I'm afraid of ending up in the friend zone, so I end up keeping it all playful and flirty for a really long time (days on end, it seems). I need new ways of arousing desire in girls for so I'm not just doing the cocky comedy, negging thing all the time. |
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| Author: | Jonas_Al_Caponas [ Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:09 pm ] |
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Mystery said it best in Neil Strauss's book The Game. You have to look for 3 IOI's (indicators of interest) to initiate a gear shift. These clues are "generally unintentional and subtle, include leaning toward a man when he speaks, asking mundane questions to keep a conversation going, or squeezing his hand when he takes her hand in his." The goal is to look for three IOI's and you can phaze shift. This usually works best on night one. Tell her it's too loud in the place you're at and ask if she'd like to go outside. I personally like to say I'm going out for a smoke, and she can join me if she wants. Then you can take her hand and lead her through the crowd. Squeeze her hand once and see if she replies with a squeeze back. That is certainly an IOI, and in fact, her even agreeing to come with you is an IOI. Mystery also says a good way to Kiss Close a first time date is to just let a little silence build, and then say "Do you want to kiss me?" She will respond with one of few choices, "Yes!" Then obviously do it. "No, not yet, maybe, I don't know..." Then you reply, "I'm not saying you can, it just looks like you have something on your mind." At this point she's thinking about it. And you probably won't have long until you're Kiss Closing her. |
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| Author: | osa [ Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:44 am ] |
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is there an exhaustive list of IOI's out there some where? Cause sometimes I dont even know what stage I'm in with a girl on a date! Maybe I'll rifle through the magic bullets book see what I come up with |
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