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Author:  chevylover [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:56 am ]
Post subject:  Punching an AMOG in the face...good or bad?
Well I was at this party the other day, i opened a set of 7 girls and two guys. About 8 minutes in, I was easily winning over the set, except for the AMOG, I was getting bad vibes from this guy from the beginning, and they weren't going away. I thought I was getting somewhere when he asked if I wanted to play a game, but it turned out it was just a trick to make me look beta and the trick ends with my eyes shut and a soft slap in the face.

I didn't appreciate this too much but i recovered and the AMOG went to go get a drink, on the way out of the set he gave me another little slap on the face. I was getting mad. I told him to seriously cut that shit out. I thought about wanting to show that I was alpha, and I knew that meant not putting up with this ass-clown. Keep in mind he thinks he can do this because he its about 6'2", 230 pounds, and i'm 6'2", 175 pounds.

Upon his return i was running the best friends test on my target and this girl that she seemed to be good friends with. He entered with a "what did I miss?" and another slap to my face, this time a little harder. In the middle of the routine I was running, I stood up without a word, turned around and socked him in the face. I tackeled him when he was stunned from the punch and gave him another good left hook once I had him on the ground. I got hit in the eye once but he wanted nothing more to do with me.

When I got up, he went with his guy friend that was in the set and left. I said that I should go as well and got my target's number. But i'm wondering when a guy is AMOGing that hard, what could I have done differently?
Author:  The [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:58 am ]
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sounds like something you were doing made him think that was ok from the start one time this guy im kinda friends with who is an alpha male slaped my friend in the face really hard right in the middle of his sentance my friend being a dominant male but only in atidude weighing 135 soking wet just has a shocked look on his face and tries to laugh it off then the kid tried to slap me so i grabbed his hand right before he made contact so he was jsut barely touching and made jokes at his expense like o why are you intimately carresing my cheek here buddy where you going with this however if you dont have spider senses like me you could always just get him back along the same lines like ball up a piece of paper in your straw spittball style but dont spit on it and shoot it at him it iono make it up as you go along


Good Luck
Author:  The [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:59 am ]
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sounds like something you were doing made him think that was ok from the start one time this guy im kinda friends with who is an alpha male slaped my friend in the face really hard right in the middle of his sentance my friend being a dominant male but only in atidude weighing 135 soking wet just has a shocked look on his face and tries to laugh it off then the kid tried to slap me so i grabbed his hand right before he made contact so he was jsut barely touching and made jokes at his expense like o why are you intimately carresing my cheek here buddy where you going with this however if you dont have spider senses like me you could always just get him back along the same lines like ball up a piece of paper in your straw spittball style but dont spit on it and shoot it at him it iono make it up as you go along


Good Luck
Author:  The [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:02 am ]
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sounds like something you were doing made him think that was ok from the start one time this guy im kinda friends with who is an alpha male slaped my friend in the face really hard right in the middle of his sentance my friend being a dominant male but only in atidude weighing 135 soking wet just has a shocked look on his face and tries to laugh it off then the kid tried to slap me so i grabbed his hand right before he made contact so he was jsut barely touching and made jokes at his expense like o why are you intimately carresing my cheek here buddy where you going with this however if you dont have spider senses like me you could always just get him back along the same lines like ball up a piece of paper in your straw spittball style but dont spit on it and shoot it at him it iono make it up as you go along


Good Luck
Author:  The [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:02 am ]
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sounds like something you were doing made him think that was ok from the start one time this guy im kinda friends with who is an alpha male slaped my friend in the face really hard right in the middle of his sentance my friend being a dominant male but only in atidude weighing 135 soking wet just has a shocked look on his face and tries to laugh it off then the kid tried to slap me so i grabbed his hand right before he made contact so he was jsut barely touching and made jokes at his expense like o why are you intimately carresing my cheek here buddy where you going with this however if you dont have spider senses like me you could always just get him back along the same lines like ball up a piece of paper in your straw spittball style but dont spit on it and shoot it at him it iono make it up as you go along


Good Luck
Author:  Sycotic [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:05 am ]
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it sounds as though you were there by yourself in which case you got lucky, because if that was my friends and you just socked me in the face in front of a crowd you woulda got jumped.. So feel lucky from this one.. When something like this happens bring a more intellectual side to it and make him feel like a retard. But where you really messed up is by letting him slap you several times before you actually took action, the first time he did it you should have made a point that he needed to stop.. But as far as him trying to cut in on your conversation. That can be your opportunity to throw somethin at the target.

(You and select target are talking and AMOG walks up)
AMOG: So what'd i miss?
You: Oh you just missed the part where me and (whatever name) are going to escape from this creeper that constantly keeps bugging us. Give her a wink or something.

It no only makes him look dumb, but it turns the "AMOG" spotlight to you and gives you an opportunity to isolate your target.

I'm no "MPUA" but that's what i would do and i hope that helps a little
Author:  DAXX [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:39 am ]
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If you play your game properly, an AMOG should never think that making a gesture like that is okay. However if he does, try my three strike rule.

1st time- Laugh it off

2nd time- "Hey man, knock it off"

3rd time- Take an educated guess as to where his nipple might be, grip it, and rip it. While hes in searing pain, remind him you dont want him to slap you in the face.

Its not violent enough to start a real fight. It appears playful to onlookers, and if pavlov is right, he wont slap you in the face again.

P.S. If he takes your "gesture" as a physical advance, and decides to fight you. Kick him in the balls and run.
Author:  Sycotic [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:06 am ]
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Daxx that approach will not work.. As i've "pushed" someone out of the way by AMOGing someone, though you might not get the girl right away, you saying knock it off the first time is not a clear enough message.. he will take it as haha this guy seriously thinks knock it off will work? especially if it's a very attractive female he will do what he has to, in order to belittle you... That's how AMOGs work.. waiting till the 3rd time then twisting his nipple.. seriously man?? that will get you punched quick.. especially if it's an embarrassing moment in front of the female where you initiate physical contact..

The only way to ensure an AMOG won't keep making fun of you or even having his buddies join and slowly push you away from the girl is to let him know immediately that you aren't going to take that crap.. It all comes down to how you hold yourself too..

And yeah sure just trying to be like knock it off might work, or trying to be nice with him will lower your Social Value with this certain female and will make you perceived as a nice guy leading to her feeling sorry for you resulting in no type of close at all.

If someone disagrees or has used any of the methods above that i have said don't work, please feel free to correct me. This is all from my personal experiences and is my personal views
Author:  indianreaper [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:12 am ]
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I agree with whats been said.

You were lucky you didn't get jumped in more lopsided numbers. Also, throwing the first punch is risky cuz it might look to girls like you over reacted or are violent especially if his slapping seemed joking to everyone else.

As for what you should have done... Despite what has been said, you can't always avoid overly aggressive AMOGs. I don't know. If a guy won't stop slapping you...

Sorry if that's not too helpful
Author:  chevylover [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:36 am ]
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You were lucky you didn't get jumped in more lopsided numbers. Also, throwing the first punch is risky cuz it might look to girls like you over reacted or are violent especially if his slapping seemed joking to everyone else.
I thought about getting jumped, but i wasn't too worried about it.

I also considered the risks of throwing the first punch and looking like I over reacted, but I couldn't think of a way to stop this guy from slapping me, i'm not a physically intimidating person so its not like any threats would work at all. So my logic was that I could either look beta as hell and take this guy's shit all night, or beat him up and risk looking overly alpha. I got the target's number and she says that the guy is always messing with people and she's glad he finally messed with someone that pushed back, and that he's complaining about a possibly broken nose :) lol

But...I do like your replies about just grabbing his hand and being like "dude why are you touching my face like that" ...I think that was the reply I was looking for and i'll do that next time.


Sycotic...how would I let him know immediately that i'm not going to take his shit?
Author:  Reo [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:44 am ]
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That was a well deserved ass whoopin he had it coming.
Author:  [Vegas] [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:17 am ]
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That was a well deserved ass whoopin he had it coming.
I'm not one to condone violence if it can be avoided, but I would have to agree. There are lines of respect and personal space that shouldn't be crossed, and this dude crossed them. If you tried telling him to cut it out and showed you weren't cool with it, he needed to step back. You can't go around invading other people's space... especially other dudes who are more likely retort physically.
Author:  Sycotic [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:18 am ]
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It kinda goes with the whole, looking confident.. and if that doesn't work as soon as the first time it happens you have to stop it.. if not then it will keep happening.. If it were me i probably would have ended up smashing a bottle over his head or trying to fight him, but that's because i seldomly go to a party by myself simply because of the over aggressive dicks like this guy you're explaining. It looks like everything is working out with this female so that's good.. Is there a follow up with this #close you got?
Author:  chevylover [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:28 am ]
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It kinda goes with the whole, looking confident.. and if that doesn't work as soon as the first time it happens you have to stop it.. if not then it will keep happening.. If it were me i probably would have ended up smashing a bottle over his head or trying to fight him, but that's because i seldomly go to a party by myself simply because of the over aggressive dicks like this guy you're explaining. It looks like everything is working out with this female so that's good.. Is there a follow up with this #close you got?
I forgot to add, I wasn't at the party by myself, just in the set by myself, I had friends everywhere.

I've been texting the girl all day, we have plans to go to the driving range tomorrow.
Author:  Sycotic [ Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:03 am ]
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ok then that makes it alot more reasonable to have hit him..
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