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Author:  Breakz [ Wed May 06, 2009 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  busted by 'the game' is it an IOI, is it to late to recover?
so here is two months worth of data as short and concise as i can get it...

so i was walking down the corridor one day and this hb gave me the stare.. so instantly i was like wicked, (pre 'game' days) so i noticed that she came out the same lift every day my AFC thinking rationalised that i should sit there everyday, so i did at first i just smiled at her, got a smile back, couple of days later caught her in lift 'what do you do' blah blah, (no name thought)

after that saw her smiling and gave her a hi everyday (3 weeks has gone by still can't get the balls to talk to her... one day she comes in i make some big gesture like yawn or something and say 'hi hows it going, whats your name, she tells me and i think wicked' from that day on she is a oneitis, can't speak to her coz im to nervous my heart beats to quick and im sweating.. so i get her facebook and have pussy ass facebook conversations, i wait days for replies and get them eventually but not with any urgency.. yes im fine exams went well hope you are ok.. blah blah

so finally i facebook her bout getting a coffee sometime and she comes back with a yes that would be great but you should know i have a boyfriend, so im like (AFC thinking agian) well i had guessed as much yeah that coffee would be cool, you know were i am if you wanna go.. and since then i have been kind of freezing her out. just saying Hi and getting away as soon as possible..

HERE IS WHAT I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP ON...

so she comes up to me today, hi how is your exams, you look board, blah blah blah i have some general chat bout uni and shit then she sits on a computer opposite me she looks at the table and says

HB: is that your book (the game)
AFC: Yeah
HB: Alex why are you reading that
AFC: coz its interesting, how do you know what it is
HB: My friend told me it was good so i read it,
AFC: ah ok....
HB: Yeah some guy in a house party tried to give me a neg about my bracelet at a house part i didn't like it
AFC: Oh really! well in my experience it works
HB: oh yeah?
AFC: I tried it on some bird the other day asked her for her opinion if eyebrow rings on 25 year olds are wrong, and it got me in there...
HB: nah it wouldn't work
AFC: so you know all the tricks?
HB: kind of
AFC: so i can't use any openers, negs on you
HB: HA
AFC: Maybe ill have to come up with my own game,
blah blah blh
HB: leaves, and turns round as she is moving and says see you later, alex you ho,

Questions

IS THAT AN IOI?
how can i find out if the bf is a shit test?
any way i can fix up from my AFC oneitis,
coz she is hot!
Author:  JohnyZulu [ Thu May 07, 2009 9:30 am ]
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Tough situation my friend. Lets see, the MM would suggest not to get caught up on one-itis, and move on. It's much harder to fix something than it is to start something new. So that's the first thought.

Obviously you can still game this girl. Don't use any routines from the GAME though. That's what great about Style's method of pickup though, unlike Mystery he is so under the radar. Be subtle. Once you knows the theories and you've internalized it you can use it in new ways.

Remember that you can't freeze this girl out unless she is attracted to you already. She hasn't made much investment and it seems to me like you're still in comfort building... so I would say a freezeout is bad, she will just forget you. The boyfriend sounds like a shit test, ignore it and move on. Better yet, game another girl to use as a pawn to attract her. Show preselection. Maybe even arrange a meeting with her, and then stand her up to show that she is not that important to you. At least ask about another coffee, and when she says a time say you can't do it. You are doing (insert awesome thing here), but no worries, MAYBE another time you will catch up with her.

Don't be too direct, don't come onto her too soon. But at the same time you're steering towards the LJBF zone. Be careful! But good luck.
Author:  hucker [ Thu May 07, 2009 5:53 pm ]
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dude, you gotta try to type stuff that is a little bit easier to understand. some of that post made no sense to me.

but i got the gist of it. having the book 'the game' and having a girl see it has never been a bad thing for me. there are a number of places you can take a conversation after this type of encounter. its all about frame though. if you act scared, timid, embarrassed, or anything like that you will be blown out immediately and/or ljbf'd. but if you act confident you can take it anywhere.

quick example "yea its my book, let me ask you something. if i asked you [canned opener/routine] what would you say?" then move on with the conversation. by this time shes thinking about something else other than your pua materials.

or in your unique situation "youve read the whole book? well you must not have learned very much because its working on you"

theres so many 'what if's' and examples of possible situations. you just need to have a strong frame and you will do fine. it can be a dhv also in the fact that you have all this game and have chosen this chick to talk to instead of other chicks..
Author:  Maf-PbC [ Thu May 07, 2009 6:10 pm ]
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Can i talk at you direct here Breakz? Going to speak straight truth here...

Here is the problem, you took WEEKS :roll: to do what most would do all one 1 shot or the 2nd/3rd pass by. You'll get placed on the shelf in her mind knowing that your game skillz are in fact shoddy. No remorse from her...and even worse to be caught reading a dating how-to book in the midst of all it. Sorry but the truth hurts, you get shut out quick when your lacking in the experience department. The idea though is to "Live and Learn". Just something that has to happen.

The BF comment is not a test, its something chicks say when they want to shut out a said guy....To let him know that shes not available and will not be for him. Alot of times girls will blurt out this line to a guy with too forward of game or to some guy thats really acting creepy... just to make em stop way ahead of time. How can it be a test if shes serious(either way she really has a BF or does not want you to be hers).

I picked up on this one girl, and because of my sloppy entrance she was asking me up and down why I did it that way, like I had some hidden motive and I just said Hey look, its how it went down, would you have rather not had it happen at all? Always a bunch of speculators trying to figure shit out.

IMHO your done here, take your experience from what you've learned with her and move onward. Get on a different lift and see if you can write a how-to "Elevator gaming" book.
Author:  Breakz [ Thu May 07, 2009 11:36 pm ]
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Ha cheers johny, maf and Hucker..

to johny, cheers for the advice, Yeah i have been taking it easy, i haven't been making to much effort with her, the thing is i have been gaming these two birds, for the last two days, IOI all over the place, but i can't decide which one to go for (although i think i have made my decision now), the message was more of a hope, i have already accepted that i fucked with this particular girl, its funny though ever since she said she had a bf, it just got rid of all my anxiety,,, and now i find chatting way easier (im a chatty confident guy anyway, this happened coz i got extended approach anxiety), and i have been going on the cocky funny route, (as she knows my game already, im just gunna see how it goes, maybe try some flirtation with my two new friends when she is about see how that goes

Hucker: yeah i see were your coming from that is sort of what ive been doing, just saying hi and asking her opinion, on?? although im pretty resigned to my mystakes but you live and learn.... the post is so bad, coz i was in a public space and the liklihood of her walking in behind me was probable!! (the mix of the game + posting on a pui site would have been terrible, cheers anyway

i like your honesty, (what do you mean weeks, the extended approach anxiety made it about a month!!).... don't worry my lessons have been truely learned (if i had that book 6 months ago fucking hell would my life have been alot more exciting,,, just reading the mystery method at the moment, i realise when i tried to get back with my ex why it didn't bloody work.. i was doing devaluing myself by being a complete sap and at the same time increasing her value by telling her how wonderful and amazing she was... what a complete sap,,

but still thanks for taking the time to answer me fella's much appreciated
Author:  Breakz [ Thu May 07, 2009 11:37 pm ]
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ps that last paragraph was for maf, didn't wanna freeze you out myfriend 8)
Author:  JohnyZulu [ Thu May 07, 2009 11:53 pm ]
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Quote:
... IOI all over the place, but i can't decide which one to go for (although i think i have made my decision now)...
I don't know why you are in the game, maybe it's to find that special girl, and if so than that is great and I wish you all the luck in the world. However, if you are not looking to settle down right away, than why the hell would you choose? Just be honest with the girls and tell them they are great, and you like them, but you've just come out of a relationship and right now you are just looking for casual fun. As long as they are hooked you can have them both!
Author:  Breakz [ Fri May 08, 2009 12:08 am ]
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Ha johny, you are a bad bad man....
nah i can't really they are best friends, initially i picked my target i thought idian (i later found out was from the caribean) the other chinneese, (both with english accents though).. picked my target, started chatting to the obsticle, got in there hows her work going, blah blah,

then the target came, carrried on with the obsticle got quite attracted to her, and then the target started asking what kind of woman do i think are attractive (show me pictures).. and im really torn, its funny though when this canned material pops into your head

hb: save us seats next to you tommorow..
next day (didn't save them seats
hb: why didn't you save us seats,
AFC: coz that guy offered me more money, you can't sit next to me for free you know??
hb: laugh laugh ha ha
Author:  JohnyZulu [ Fri May 08, 2009 12:28 am ]
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I'm not a bad guy. I'm just a recovering serial monogamist who just got out of a 2 1/2 year relationship. I'm trying to just have fun now and I tell girls that. It works really well, the typical response is "That's really cool that you're so up front about this. Now I know what I'm getting myself into whatever I decide." And after that, they usually proceed. It's called Multiple Long Term Relationships (MLTRs). So just to clarify, I'm not a bad, bad man. Haha. I'm just going through a a period of fun in my life, and I'm being honest with the women so no one can get hurt (and thus to not be a bad guy).

That being said, when you said they were best friends the first thing that popped into my head was "Why choose?" You can try for the threesome, use Style's Double Induction Massage... to quote him loosely "Once their lips touch, it's on..." Just something for you to think about. :twisted:
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