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| Author: | xBossx [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | It completely matters what you talk about during a convo |
Ok. I've been told millions of times from a ton of different sources that it doesn't matter what you talk to a chick about, it's all about how you say it, which I somewhat agree with, but you better have something to fuckin say when you start talking. Perfect example: I know at least some of you watched the pick up artist on MTV even though it's full of media bullshit but somewhy Mystery i guess convinced Brian on season 2 that talking about his love for pickle juice would be a good idea. So he tries it with a group of chicks at a table at some model party. Fail central. First impression: you're wierd as shit and 2) where the hell are you gonna continue going on that topic? So of course the girls give him the wtf look and blow him out. So back to me. I asked a girl today what she would do if she had one wish, and she's like "ionno." She sucked at convo but she was a solid 9.5 so i stuck it through. So i started talking about how I'd love to have the power to control time cause you could do basically anything you wanted and get away with anything. And she gave me the wtf look and I told her to shut up and listen but then realized that that's really all i had to say. Needless to say i lost that battle pretty quick. Moral of story: 1) Don't have weird ass stories until you actually get some comfort built and she knows a little bit about you and even then don't be too weird 2) know what you're talking about. And don't stumble over words, which I have a major problem with. |
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| Author: | ~>Shady<~ [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:20 am ] |
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XBossX I laughed when you said this, but when you are talking too a 9.5/10 you have too realize if they are worth the conversation. If you would ask me right now if i would date a 10 looks, but with 3 personality i wouldn't... Just remember for all people that is reading this post, that there are more girl's out there. Don't stick with one 9.5, and if you have nothing too say: Just leave, or make an excuse too leave. haha xbossx good luck with the conversation next time =] |
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| Author: | moony [ Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:55 am ] |
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hah man, i generally say how you say it is 70% and 30% is what you say. And to pick up you NEED to have a 90, you can only mess up so much but what you talk about is what decides between a possible pick up and a definite pickup. and with this HB you talked to dont sweat it next time you see her try again and if it fails who cares find another... Good luck man, keep us posted 
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| Author: | xBossx [ Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:56 am ] |
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Guess i really didn't say that exactly as i wanted. Yes she sucked at convo but she was interested in what i was saying up to that point. Kept solid eye contact, good body language, nodded a lot, laughed at my shitty jokes (they're really bad), but i felt like she was just a timid girl and I could break her out of her shell after i talked to her for a while As for the 70/30 rule I think my body language was ok. Nowhere near where it needs to be but i'm workin on it. And I don't remember where i read this/heard this but at first i thought you were referring to the 70/30 rule that you're supposed to talk 70% of the time and she's supposed to talk for 30% (I actually might've fucked up the numbers. 90/10?). Regardless, 25 percent of the 30 or 8% of the 10 is her responding to whatever it is you're saying I.E. telling her own anecdote pertaining to the subject, replying to questions, whatever. SO, if you start talking about something that she isn't going to relate to/doesn't care about/thinks is weird, she's not gonna give you her attention and won't be talking at all. Instead you're going to get the stare past your shoulders, her looking around, texting someone else, whatever. However... at the same time, you're the PUA. You need to be leading the conversation and taking it where ever you want it to go. So talk about what you wanna talk about, but make it interesting. |
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| Author: | Temur/Jeskai [ Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:19 pm ] |
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NLP works great. It allows them to talk about stuff that interests them and if you set it up right, they can feel the emotions they felt during those experiences. Seriously, NLP can work really well when trying to maintain interest. |
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| Author: | Conker [ Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:57 am ] |
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I still don't think the content matters, as long as you are genuinely interested in what you want to talk about, and reckon other people should be told how cool it is too - you should be able to thwart any negative responses eg. unimpressed? "Oh I suppose this happens to you EVERY DAY..." and even in the worst case, leave them with the impression there was something cool you experienced and at least they believe you on that even if they didn't relate to it, and you could be like "Ah had to be there" kind of thing. |
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| Author: | RuleBreaker [ Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Superpowers |
I'll link my answer to the same topic in another post: good-conversation-topics-for-clubs-vt44 ... highlight= The link above is how I deal with WHAT to say when I'm running dry. I agree with both sides of your point. The effect is definitely HOW you say it, but it won't matter how you say it unless you have SOMETHING to say. Generally speaking (and I don't want anyone accusing me of stereotyping, I know this isn't ALL women) the 9's and 10's are not usually the brightest crayons and are less inclined to chat about things like the power to control time. Maybe try and relate a superpower to something really really girly, I'm sure Cosmo has some inspiration you can draw from. Oooooo or the power to read minds, so you knew what people really thought about. Those are more girl-oriented things, basically anything to get them to go "Yeah, now that's something I can relate to!" Breaker |
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| Author: | Temur/Jeskai [ Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:58 pm ] |
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Conker- That happened to me when i was trying to do some NLP with this Korean HB. I told her about this amazing experience I had when I found myself alone though I had only been biking for like 45 minutes. She said that she is not the most observant person and tends to get to focused on what is right in front of her so she does not tend to have these kinds of experiences. |
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