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Author:  Lalamui [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Cock block by UBFs.
So this is my situation:

There are 2 UBFs and a hb. So, I approach them and starts a conversation. My target of course would be that hb, but during conversation, I'm advice to pay more attention to the UBFs so I could attract the hb attention. Right?

But the thing is, how do I go on from there? As in how do I keep in touch or at least get the hb's phone number, when I'm already focusing on the UBFs.

Can anyone guide me on this? Thanks in advance.
Author:  Shreder [ Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:23 pm ]
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Sounds like basic Mystery Method from what you're telling us. It was right to approach the set and focus on the UBF's, this disarms the target and gets the friends approval before making the transition towards the HB. I am horrible at negging, but you could neg the target offhand then, focus on the friends for a bit more building value in their (and thus the HB)'s eyes, then you can say something like "I've been ignoring your friend, do you mind if I steal her away for a moment? I promise I'll bring her right back ;)" They'll say yes because you've already built that value up for them to approve of you so then you can take the target to the side, and continue with the seduction from there.
Author:  danheartz [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:42 am ]
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Sounds like basic Mystery Method from what you're telling us. It was right to approach the set and focus on the UBF's, this disarms the target and gets the friends approval before making the transition towards the HB. I am horrible at negging, but you could neg the target offhand then, focus on the friends for a bit more building value in their (and thus the HB)'s eyes, then you can say something like "I've been ignoring your friend, do you mind if I steal her away for a moment? I promise I'll bring her right back ;)" They'll say yes because you've already built that value up for them to approve of you so then you can take the target to the side, and continue with the seduction from there.
Can this technique be done anywhere? I've been sarging a lot in malls lately, and it seems kind of weird to just take a girl "somewhere else" while at a mall. Is that just me? or is there an actual reason why I feel that way?
Author:  Shreder [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:28 am ]
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Usually this is reserved for night game when you can separate her from her friends by taking her away from the dance floor, or the bar, or away from the table she's at. BUT, I think there are ways to make this work in day game... I mean if you're walking at an outside venue, like a main thoroughfare, there are sometimes venders set up selling Itallian ice, Bottles of water, hot dogs and other random food items, and they sometimes have tables sitting around you could take her to. In a mall, the Food Court would be your best option. Although it would be easier to do this for direct game when the target is by themselves, but think about this: Since malls are typically open during the day, what are you wanting out of the interaction? I mean you can't really separate them from their friends go go start building comfort and go for a kiss close. They probably came there WITH their friends so they are not going to leave them to hang out with you for the rest of the day.

The advice I CAN give though, is that once you game the entire set (earn friends approval, demonstrate high value, show them that you're a "catch") you can straight up ask the target for a phone number. Now there's the possibility that the friends could get jealous of this, BUT more often than not, they are going to be so excited for their friend that they won't mind. I think it was on another post or a David DeAngelo newsletter I read someones letter concerned with this and Dave basically just said. "Ugly girls that hang out with hot girls know that their hot friends get hit on all the time. Alot of times this can seem insensitive, but that's part of being a man and showing your interest to the person that YOU want to add to your life for a potential romantic partner." So ante' up and just ask her out. Go for a scenery change (like if you meet them at one of the kiosk's in the mall, move the entire set to the food court) then throw another few false time constraints and DHV's ("Oh guys I can't stay long because I have to go volunteer at a soup kitchen this afternoon" or whatever you have) and when it comes time to leave, just ask the target for her number. Continue the interaction by setting up a day/date 2. You'll have the friend's approval even though you didn't fully isolate the target from the 3 set. Hope this clarified a few things. -Shred
Author:  danheartz [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:09 pm ]
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Shreder thanks so much! that really helps a lot actually. I've been having a really hard time figuring out what to do in those situations and your explanation just clarified all of it.
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