PUA Forum :: Having problems reeling girls in, HELP!

i have yet to try solo sarging at a club but i know how hard it can be sometimes to get to the hook point. some guys use gimmicks, magic tricks, and other tom-foolery but none of that works for me. if they dont show enough IOI's right off the bat, I move on and dont waste time. odds are some girls are going to be attracted to u before u even open ur mouth. ur job after that is to keep her interest through non-needy behaviour and neg her (if she's 8.5-10), lowering her value and raising urs.

For the sisters thing. when she says they're sisters, give them a look that says "I think you're lying to me". u may call "bullshit" on her and when she insists say either "you two look nothing alike" (if they don't) or "just because u two look like sisters, u go around lying to everyone?" (if they do look similar). there are many ways u can neg them about being sisters. find out which one is older and play the whole "are you protective of the younger sister" thing. Limitless options my man. If all of these responses are way off, let me know cause I'll need to get back into the feild and back to the basics.

see man you know what you're doing. you probably just froze a couple times which happens to all of us. a good thing to do is have one liners and facial expressions so that when there's a silence, you've got something up your sleeve.
facial expressions and tone of voice are so powerful. If she just finished some long rant and u dont know what to say, put on the "you're kinda crazy and I'm trying to be nice by listening to you" face. Also get into the mind set that it's THEIR job to hold YOUR attention, not the otherway around. Every once in a while during the pickup u should be scanning the crowd as if u'll have to move on from her at any second if she starts to bore you. That's when they start qualifying and chasing you. Then slowly let her win u over. very effective.

magic is always good. what i really like is palm reading!! learn it from youtube dude!! its so easy and always leads to kino and the chick being interested. you could also ask their opinion on something, anything. and when approaching...always let them know that ur on a tight schedule and cant chat for too long. this way if things flop, you have an emergency exit. you got it dude!!!

When it comes to just keeping the conversation goin without running out of things to say I recommend the alphabet game.
It is simple, when you do run out of material or you want to fluff a little before your next routine:
Start talkin about a topic that starts with A ex. afterparties, then move on to a topic starting with B ex. the beach. Just keep goin like this, try to make up topics that relates to the girl you are talkin to, eventually you'll find a topic you both love to talk abbout and she will be like wax in your hands!
Practice this with a PUA friend first if you want to get a better flow in it.

If you just keep feeding her routines and magic tricks she will eventually get bored with you trying to impress her, it's better to put them in smoothly in the conversation

Author:	1984 [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Having problems reeling girls in, HELP!
So I was out sarging last night, in a bar where I didnt know a soul. And it was packed! However, I noticed that one of my problems is keeping the girl interested. I have been using some decent openers and worked on the body language details, but there is something that i need to work on. I got some IOI's after openers. But many times, right after an opener the girl just goes silent as if she is waiting FOR ME to do something. Thats where I get silent too. This usually means that the girl or the whole set is seconds away from moving away. When I was a bigger AFC, I would be leaning in and may be ask why they are leaving, try to get them to stay or may be even follow them a little. But today, if they move away, I stand still. I tried countering this by looking around for the next set to crack. I also freeze instantly if I run into sisters - Ill ask them how they know each other, they tell me they are sisters I go ok...........they move away. If this has been discussed to death on here, just point me in the right direction. I would prefer a personal advice tho.

Author:	Sheer Con [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:30 pm ]
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i have yet to try solo sarging at a club but i know how hard it can be sometimes to get to the hook point. some guys use gimmicks, magic tricks, and other tom-foolery but none of that works for me. if they dont show enough IOI's right off the bat, I move on and dont waste time. odds are some girls are going to be attracted to u before u even open ur mouth. ur job after that is to keep her interest through non-needy behaviour and neg her (if she's 8.5-10), lowering her value and raising urs. For the sisters thing. when she says they're sisters, give them a look that says "I think you're lying to me". u may call "bullshit" on her and when she insists say either "you two look nothing alike" (if they don't) or "just because u two look like sisters, u go around lying to everyone?" (if they do look similar). there are many ways u can neg them about being sisters. find out which one is older and play the whole "are you protective of the younger sister" thing. Limitless options my man. If all of these responses are way off, let me know cause I'll need to get back into the feild and back to the basics.

Author:	1984 [ Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:44 pm ]
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Quote: i have yet to try solo sarging at a club but i know how hard it can be sometimes to get to the hook point. some guys use gimmicks, magic tricks, and other tom-foolery but none of that works for me. if they dont show enough IOI's right off the bat, I move on and dont waste time. odds are some girls are going to be attracted to u before u even open ur mouth. ur job after that is to keep her interest through non-needy behaviour and neg her (if she's 8.5-10), lowering her value and raising urs. For the sisters thing. when she says they're sisters, give them a look that says "I think you're lying to me". u may call "bullshit" on her and when she insists say either "you two look nothing alike" (if they don't) or "just because u two look like sisters, u go around lying to everyone?" (if they do look similar). there are many ways u can neg them about being sisters. find out which one is older and play the whole "are you protective of the younger sister" thing. Limitless options my man. If all of these responses are way off, let me know cause I'll need to get back into the feild and back to the basics. Nice little piece of info dude, much appreciated. I actually know a little bit of magic. But its mostly card tricks, im still working on the other tricks. I like the dont waste time and move on if there are no instant IOIs strategy. Sisters thing I actually tried the "Your lying" thing and the girl replied in a very stern voice " No we really are sisters" The second time it happened, I was like "Oh ok cool" they stood there for a few seconds, the moment was lost and they moved on. Just like that. When I shouldve been like this: well whose the more dominant one, whose the submissive one. Do you guys fight? Can I watch? Who usually wins? Or your content - You 2 look nothing alike! find out which one is older and play the whole "are you protective of the younger sister" thing.

Author:	Sheer Con [ Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:55 pm ]
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see man you know what you're doing. you probably just froze a couple times which happens to all of us. a good thing to do is have one liners and facial expressions so that when there's a silence, you've got something up your sleeve. facial expressions and tone of voice are so powerful. If she just finished some long rant and u dont know what to say, put on the "you're kinda crazy and I'm trying to be nice by listening to you" face. Also get into the mind set that it's THEIR job to hold YOUR attention, not the otherway around. Every once in a while during the pickup u should be scanning the crowd as if u'll have to move on from her at any second if she starts to bore you. That's when they start qualifying and chasing you. Then slowly let her win u over. very effective.

Author:	1984 [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:28 am ]
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Quote: see man you know what you're doing. you probably just froze a couple times which happens to all of us. a good thing to do is have one liners and facial expressions so that when there's a silence, you've got something up your sleeve. facial expressions and tone of voice are so powerful. If she just finished some long rant and u dont know what to say, put on the "you're kinda crazy and I'm trying to be nice by listening to you" face. Also get into the mind set that it's THEIR job to hold YOUR attention, not the otherway around. Every once in a while during the pickup u should be scanning the crowd as if u'll have to move on from her at any second if she starts to bore you. That's when they start qualifying and chasing you. Then slowly let her win u over. very effective. Thanks, Id like to know if there is more!

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Author:	Fate Adams [ Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:28 pm ]
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Aye for the sister thing u could also try the best friend routine it might help. If you don't know the best friend routine it goes something like this. Aye you guys are sisters right, so how close are u guys really? Then ask some random question like what type of shampoo`s do you girls use, then if they look at each other, you would say, see you guys are really close, because you look into each others eyes before responding. People with a close connection usually look into each others eyes before answering, and then you could add some of your own little touch after that. Hope that helps

Author:	CaptRow [ Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:47 pm ]
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magic is always good. what i really like is palm reading!! learn it from youtube dude!! its so easy and always leads to kino and the chick being interested. you could also ask their opinion on something, anything. and when approaching...always let them know that ur on a tight schedule and cant chat for too long. this way if things flop, you have an emergency exit. you got it dude!!!

Author:	1984 [ Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:17 am ]
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Quote: magic is always good. what i really like is palm reading!! learn it from youtube dude!! its so easy and always leads to kino and the chick being interested. you could also ask their opinion on something, anything. and when approaching...always let them know that ur on a tight schedule and cant chat for too long. this way if things flop, you have an emergency exit. you got it dude!!! There are some great books on palm reading! Thanks.

Author:	Slywalker [ Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:24 am ]
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When it comes to just keeping the conversation goin without running out of things to say I recommend the alphabet game. It is simple, when you do run out of material or you want to fluff a little before your next routine: Start talkin about a topic that starts with A ex. afterparties, then move on to a topic starting with B ex. the beach. Just keep goin like this, try to make up topics that relates to the girl you are talkin to, eventually you'll find a topic you both love to talk abbout and she will be like wax in your hands! Practice this with a PUA friend first if you want to get a better flow in it. If you just keep feeding her routines and magic tricks she will eventually get bored with you trying to impress her, it's better to put them in smoothly in the conversation

Author:	1984 [ Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:41 pm ]
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Quote: When it comes to just keeping the conversation goin without running out of things to say I recommend the alphabet game. It is simple, when you do run out of material or you want to fluff a little before your next routine: Start talkin about a topic that starts with A ex. afterparties, then move on to a topic starting with B ex. the beach. Just keep goin like this, try to make up topics that relates to the girl you are talkin to, eventually you'll find a topic you both love to talk abbout and she will be like wax in your hands! Practice this with a PUA friend first if you want to get a better flow in it. If you just keep feeding her routines and magic tricks she will eventually get bored with you trying to impress her, it's better to put them in smoothly in the conversation Thats pretty good thanks. Keep them going guys.

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