Here's my problem in all of this. You got her talking about how she feels. This causes you to have to take a step back and make her see you as a sexual being. If you can do that, you'll have no problems seducing her, but I think she is going to be on her guard because she knows that you are into her. You're not friendzoned, but you are digging yourself out of a hole. Flirt...push/pulll and make it your goal to make her confused about how you feel. If you can do that...you'll be in there. Just don't try to make her say how she feels. She'll get there once you start making her feel like she needs to invest.

Then she mentions she doesnt kiss on the first date.

So recently I asked her on SPAM, how she felt when we were holding hands

I already bought her skittles on the first date, she knows I like choc chip cookies so that will be a test to see if she will bring me some, I dont think I will buy a rose or gift.

Should I say "my leg hurts - dont feel like walking" and just bring her to my place to stream something on my laptop? My objective is to get her used to kissing me ("I dont kiss on the first date")..

So she says, "I just got out a relationship, I do not want a relationship right now...I want to make it clear we are friends"

- I tried to hold her hand in the Friendzone on the third "friend date" , and she giggles and says "we are friends"

I know she is comfortable around me but I dont think romantically attracted.

So like I mentioned before she is 22, very inexperienced and just broke up with her first bf, first relationship last month

----> so obviously she is confused trying to sort out her feelings.

I noticed: she started to copy the manner that I texted, laughs at all my jokes, mirrors my body language..

How do I know if she put me in the friendzone b/c
1. she just broke up with her bf of three years

versus 2. She simply doesnt not see me as alpha/ romantically attracted?

b/c this girl is worth it

I already told her I want it to be my objective to "escape out of this FZ bullshit".......... my mistake?

tbh I am really obsessed with her, cant even focus at work at all...

Damn man...couldnt make it through the other threads on this girl. Just a main theme of desperation.

This is already over. You can either waste time focusing on this chick or fixing yourself. Because things are very wrong with you.

She didn't put you in the friendzone. You put yourself in the friendzone by failing to seduce her. Jack replied to every single one of your topics pointing out the same mistake. Stop seeking validation from her. "How did you feel about us holding hands?" Seriously? What are you doing?

How did I "fail" to seduce her? If a girl tells you "I dont kiss on the first date" after you lose a playful bet what would Mr. R.C do? (you tell me so I know for next time)

This girl isn't your typical college girl, she comes out of an ultra conservative family (her dad didnt even know she had a bf), and is extremely sheltered.

There was nothing playful about it. You weren't trying to be playful, you were trying to cheese a kiss out of her and she saw through it.
If neo can tell you're desperate from a forum post, you can be sure as hell a woman can tell you're desperate in person.


So then why the fuck would you wanna date a girl like that?

Thank you for your reply...



Sorry mate, but not everyone on this board just want to get laid and move on, some here would like to actually get into a long term relationship...

ie. I'm in my late twenties.

How do I know if she put me in the friendzone b/c
1. she just broke up with her bf of three years

Did I read that right? She's a 22 year old cute virgin, had a BF for 3 years, and he never tapped that ass?
.....Naw.

She better start selling cars.

I believe her , she is from a conservative family. she didnt even want to kiss on first date..

You should know that there are some people who save it for marriage.