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Author:  theoriesof93 [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:36 am ]
Post subject:  Have i ended up in the friendzone ? Or can this be saved ?

Hi, fellow pua's :)

So, here is my (strange) situation; I have been seeing this girl for about Three months now. We met at Tinder, and got a really good Wibe from the get-go. The conversation flowed great, and i knew she enjoyed my Company. When we said goodbye, the last thing she said were "Let us not make this the last time we meet". Sucsess. Now i could do my real Magic ! Or at least i thought.

The next date were at her Place. Things worked out well, as last time. And the time flew away. BUT, there is a big but here. I can never seem to get any oportunities to get in some KINO. I took her hand, and could feel that she wasn't really "feeling it". It didn't seem like she were uncomfortable or anything, but i just had the feeling. And when i asked her about it (stupid, i know), she said that it were because she is "slow". So in my mind i think that this means that she needs more time ?

Well... We continued the dating, and i tried KINO again, this time letting her have her legs on my lap while we were watching a Movie. I put my hands on it, and stroked it slow. She did not seem uncomfortable at all, but i really didn't get any more oportunities to escalate. It seems like she wont offer me it. If i see an opening, i am not afraid to escalate, so that is not the problem... This was the last date, and at the end of it, i got a BIG hug, and she held it very long, and pulled me in really Close. We have a New "date" planned, but now i need to step my game up. So, do you guys think this is a lost cause, or can i still fix it ? I know she loves my Company, she does not back away when i touch her, she talks in a "cute" voice when around me, and seems to always wanna talk on facebook.

Now, here is some (important) things that i need to mention;

-she got out of her first relationship, that lasted Three years, a few weeks before Meeting me(he broke up). I know she hadn't really moved on when we first met, so i knew i had to use a bit of extra time on her. But now it has gone almost 4 months since they broke up

- We talk a LOT on facebook. And she kind of craves the attention. She wants to talk for several hours every day. And wants us to go to sleep at the same time.

- She has told me that she loves me. I love you can mean two things in my Language. Either the kind of love you have for Your nearest ones, and the love you have for Your closest friends/at the start of a relationship. So the last one is the Word she used ;) Just had to Clear that out for you.

- In one of Our latest conversations, she mentioned that her lap would be a good pillow. I capitalised, but it seems like she gets nervous/shuts herself off when it comes to real life...

-She seems to have some body-complexes (even thou she looks AMAZING), so this (or the ex), is something i think may have been the biggest walls for me to overcome.

- She has commented that Our walues are so extremely alike.

I'm sorry for the sandwich-list, guys... Just trying to explain the situation the best :) But what should i do next ? I really like this girl, and i hope i can get into a serious relationship With her.

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Have i ended up in the friendzone ? Or can this be saved

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Have i ended up in the friendzone ? Or can this be saved ? It seems like she wont offer me it. If i see an opening, i am not afraid to escalate, so that is not the problem...
I call bullshit!

The Dilemma of Self-Deception.

How do we know when we are lying to ourselves? As articulated in your question, it's clearly YOU that is not escalating.

In your mind you are already in that pussy. Your actions are stubbornly holding you back. It's not her job to offer it to you, like a Scooby snack.

Author:  R.C [ Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Have i ended up in the friendzone ? Or can this be saved

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-she got out of her first relationship, that lasted Three years, a few weeks before Meeting me(he broke up). I know she hadn't really moved on when we first met, so i knew i had to use a bit of extra time on her.
See, this right here is why most guys fail with women. You have no regard for your own self and immediately mold your needs and wants around hers.
She got out of a relationship. So what? She's a big girl, she can handle her own problems.

Look man, all she wants is to be swept of her feet. That doesn't happen by you waiting around for her ass to make up her mind. She doesn't want to lead, she wants to be led. She doesn't want to make decisions, she wants to react to decisions being made.

Escalate. Stop making excuses for yourself and escalate. "Openings" don't happen, you create them. So create.

Author:  theoriesof93 [ Thu Mar 17, 2016 12:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Have i ended up in the friendzone ? Or can this be saved

Thank you for the help guys.

Well, i agree. I have been bad at escalating... But i still hope this one can be saved. From my own view, i would think that she may feel that i have given her too much affirmation too soon. The "Chase" and exitement isn't there. So i think i should try to step it a bit Down, and maybe make her feel like she has to work a bit more to make me hers ?

She is at a vacation now, and i know that i can use that to make her miss me. In the mean time, i will take Your advices and work more on my KINO, and try it the next time i see her :) It seems like she is comfortable With me touching her in the face, as she does not back away. So maybe she is already waiting for the kiss ?

What is the best Place to start when touching a girl ? I would figure the hands, to spark some chemistry, but this is really not something i am good at.

A factor that also Plays in, is that i am one of the few persons she really knows in this town, as she just moved here.

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