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Author:  SunChimp [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Transition from opener to whatever

So I was in a few bars and pubs and I've gotten pretty good at opening a group. The problems starts when the opener conversation stops being natural. At best I take some girl number and thats how the interaction stops. What is the next step towards a Kclose with a traget that's in the group. I've tried isolating the target with "can I steal your friend for a moment" but almost everytime the target isn't attracted enough.

Thanks everyone, The Chimp

Author:  Heywood Jablowme [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Transition from opener to whatever

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Author:  Dragula [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Transition from opener to whatever

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What is the next step towards a Kclose with a traget that's in the group. I've tried isolating the target with "can I steal your friend for a moment" but almost everytime the target isn't attracted enough.
Work harder at attracting her.

Sounds you're indirect. Try direct, that way she is either forced to like or dislike you from the start

Author:  spacco [ Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Transition from opener to whatever

I agree with this. If you have a more polarizing effect on her where she makes a firmer stance on you that magnet will be stronger. She either walk away or want her friends to pull her away. Or she will give off vibes that she is really into you and her friends will read that. And might offer to leave you too alone, by signalling they are moving elsewhere but they will come find her etc. Girls are good at reading each other non-verbals cues this way. Moreso than men since they are used to reading the subtleties of body language from a young age.
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What is the next step towards a Kclose with a traget that's in the group. I've tried isolating the target with "can I steal your friend for a moment" but almost everytime the target isn't attracted enough.
Work harder at attracting her.

Sounds you're indirect. Try direct, that way she is either forced to like or dislike you from the start

Author:  ChocolatePUA [ Mon Dec 28, 2015 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Transition from opener to whatever

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So I was in a few bars and pubs and I've gotten pretty good at opening a group. The problems starts when the opener conversation stops being natural. At best I take some girl number and thats how the interaction stops. What is the next step towards a Kclose with a traget that's in the group. I've tried isolating the target with "can I steal your friend for a moment" but almost everytime the target isn't attracted enough.

Thanks everyone, The Chimp
Opening a group doesn't cause attraction.

If you're in a bar or a pub (sounds like I'm a stuck record lately) then kino, escalate, and isolate.

Get close to her, touch, look into her eyes, be playful, tease her a bit. Give it a few minutes. Watch her reaction. You will almost always know whether or not she's interested via her reaction to your kino/touch. If she's attracted or neutral, THEN look for isolation.

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