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Author:  Sofabear [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Validation and the Chase

"Once a girl senses that you have the power, she is going to begin craving your validation. Your job is to essentially become a drug dealer. How does a drug dealer keep his customers coming back for more? He gives them a little. And then takes it away. Gives them a little more. Then takes it away. He creates a dynamic where the customer is always wanting more. And that is the dynamic you'll create with her. She is always chasing your validation."

- Bobby Rio

My question:
Is this concept like push-pull? Or do you give her validation one day, and then not give it to her the next day? I would appreciate anybody's insight on this..

Thanks,
Sofabear

Author:  cneation040713 [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Validation and the Chase

I think it means...that the woman does something to get your attention and then you in turn reward them with your time.

Author:  Sofabear [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Validation and the Chase

Thanks for the comment. :D I'm not sure if I made myself as clear as I should have though :?

I know the actual validation part. Approval and my time and kino. But I was wondering HOW you would take the validation away...like a "drug dealer" --- creating that chase in her.

Author:  cneation040713 [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Validation and the Chase

When you give her a compliment, then she does something that you dont like and you give her a negative validation, remark. Similar to how a girls dad would be when he tells her she is wrong. In turn it puts them a position where they try to prove themselves, to get back in their good books and to seek out their positive validation.

Author:  enlightenmentdating [ Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Validation and the Chase

More like push pull. If you spend one day giving her validation, then another not giving her any validation at all, she will probably mistake it for disinterest and lose interest. It’s important to use things like touch rewards to give her validation, but you can’t do it every single time she does something you like....

There is a psychological phenomena called partial reinforcement on a fixed ratio scale. This means you want to continually reinforce a desired behavior at first (touch rewards, verbal validation, etc...), but after a while, you want to start using partial reinforcement. Basically just reward her randomly for when she does a desired behavior.

For example, if you like it when a woman cooks for you, reinforce her and tell much how much you love her every time she cooks for you. Then, after a week or so, don’t give her validation every time she cooks for you, just some of the time.

This is by far the most powerful way to reinforce behavior.

Author:  DrewDating [ Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Validation and the Chase

Quote:
"Once a girl senses that you have the power, she is going to begin craving your validation. Your job is to essentially become a drug dealer. How does a drug dealer keep his customers coming back for more? He gives them a little. And then takes it away. Gives them a little more. Then takes it away. He creates a dynamic where the customer is always wanting more. And that is the dynamic you'll create with her. She is always chasing your validation."

- Bobby Rio

My question:
Is this concept like push-pull? Or do you give her validation one day, and then not give it to her the next day? I would appreciate anybody's insight on this..

Thanks,
Sofabear
a smart drug dealer wouldnt take drugs away from a drug addict - same applies to pickup
if she is investing into you there is no reason to take it away, thats like a punishment - and after a while she will link investing into you or "taking your drugs" is bad because you are just going to say "no" so she will stop asking

do not do "push-pull" you should try "reward and punish"

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