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What's up man!

I like the idea behind this post. I would only add that it also depends on the level of emotions she associates with you, or her level of emotional investment. If you can elicit strong positive emotions in thirty min, she won't forget about you the second she hops in her car and turns on the radio.

Just some food for thought.

But I really like the idea of this as a general statement because I would have to agree that the time frame is pretty accurate for the majority of the population. But again, I think it comes down to total emotional investment rather than just straight time.

I've been in relationships that lasted for several months that I was mostly over before it even ended, simply because I wasn't emotionally invested. (good sign it's time to split)

What do you think man?

Author:	JackZero [ Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:08 pm ]
Post subject:	How to prevent flaking after getting a phone number
I feel like I owe this post to guys who keep asking why women flake on them after they get a phone number. I want to start off by talking about relationship psychology specific to after a breakup. On average, after a breakup, it takes half the time of the relationship to get over that person. If that person is replaced, even temporarily, it’ll take less time. So basically if a woman is with a man for 6 months, the average woman will take about 3 months to be over him completely. This is a very important concept to understand. Let’s say a guy meets a girl and he makes a good first impression, she will likely agree to give her phone number to him after about a 10 minute conversation. Let’s go back and look at the psychology of a breakup and apply it to when an initial meet happens. The moment that she walks away, she has about 5 minutes before she cares whether he calls or not. Let’s say that an instadate is initiated and those 10 minutes is turned into an hour, the same logic still applies. Instead of 5 minutes, she’ll lose the emotion created in about a half an hour. How do you keep women from flaking on you? You stir emotion and you do it as long as possible during your introduction. Get her phone number and let her know that your intentions for getting it is to schedule a meet up. This is done to ensure that the emotion stays with her because you are indicating that this isn’t the last time that she’s going to see you. Find out what your schedule is and call her by the next day and schedule a meet up. Now that same emotion will stay with her until you meet.

Author:	Hunter_Foxe [ Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How to prevent flaking after getting a phone number
Solid post on the pickup side of things. I disagree about it taking half a relationship to get over somebody though. I was over my wife of 5 years within 6 months. Didn't replace her either, just had one-night stands. But I guess everyone is different.

Author:	JackZero [ Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: How to prevent flaking after getting a phone number
Quote: Solid post on the pickup side of things. I disagree about it taking half a relationship to get over somebody though. I was over my wife of 5 years within 6 months. Didn't replace her either, just had one-night stands. But I guess everyone is different. That's exactly why I said when someone is replaced, even temporarily, it takes even less time. GFTOW, works for a reason.

Author:	andrewbalderree [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 12:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How to prevent flaking after getting a phone number
What's up man! I like the idea behind this post. I would only add that it also depends on the level of emotions she associates with you, or her level of emotional investment. If you can elicit strong positive emotions in thirty min, she won't forget about you the second she hops in her car and turns on the radio. Just some food for thought. But I really like the idea of this as a general statement because I would have to agree that the time frame is pretty accurate for the majority of the population. But again, I think it comes down to total emotional investment rather than just straight time. I've been in relationships that lasted for several months that I was mostly over before it even ended, simply because I wasn't emotionally invested. (good sign it's time to split) What do you think man?

Author:	JackZero [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:25 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How to prevent flaking after getting a phone number
Quote: What's up man! I like the idea behind this post. I would only add that it also depends on the level of emotions she associates with you, or her level of emotional investment. If you can elicit strong positive emotions in thirty min, she won't forget about you the second she hops in her car and turns on the radio. Just some food for thought. But I really like the idea of this as a general statement because I would have to agree that the time frame is pretty accurate for the majority of the population. But again, I think it comes down to total emotional investment rather than just straight time. I've been in relationships that lasted for several months that I was mostly over before it even ended, simply because I wasn't emotionally invested. (good sign it's time to split) What do you think man? Of course this is in general just as most pickup works in generalities. The idea that you can elicit strong emotion and then wait a few days is garbage, especially when it comes to quality women. Can you reestablish attraction? Maybe. But wouldn't you rather it be easier than harder?

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Author:	andrewbalderree [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:35 am ]
Post subject:	Re: How to prevent flaking after getting a phone number
For sure man. I hope I didn't offend you because that wasn't my purpose. I wasn't trying to say that you can make her feel strong emotions (and there are powerful strategies for doing so with anyone) and she is guaranteed to be creaming over you for any length of time. I was just saying that emotion plays the biggest part in if she is going to flake, or be receptive to what you're giving her. People mostly make decisions based on emotion. Sales and pick up have a lot in common since you're basically selling other people on the idea of you. Selling from an emotional level is 19,874,928,734 times more effective than getting them to spend and hour with you. If you make the decision an emotional one, they can be sold almost instantly. Not saying you're going to sell them on a white picket fence and meeting the family, but a coffee date? You bet. Again, I come in peace. I figure this forum is here to share information so as long as I can do that without stepping on toes, I feel that it just adds value to the forum. cheers

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