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Author:  iluzjonista [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  HELP- what to do after magic opener
Could you please help me with one obstacles? The question is how can I move from magic opener into mid-game.

I'm aware that opening with magic trick is not the best way to go but at the moment this is the only approach I can make. I'm too shy to use other openers so I'm opening by saying "My name is Iryd I'm magician and I would like to show you one quick trick" (of course it will be couple of tricks). Magic is my passion and I always get great reaction to my magic. At the end of my show girls are always laughing and 95% of them kissing me on the cheek when I gesture to do that.

The problem is that I don't know what to do when I finish my last trick... I can clearly see that the girls are highly impressed and probably interested but I have no idea what to do next.

Any suggestions as to what to say to move the game going will be much appreciated :o

Thanks in advance

PS. My appologize for my bad english.
Author:  WillEdward [ Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP- what to do after magic opener
The fact that you are opening random strangers with Magic does not make you shy. Maybe you are more comfortable with Magic because you seem to do well at it and are used to it.. To answer your question, simply transition to a conversation about themselves because everybody's favorite topic is talking about themselves. You can say something like, "Wow! You guys are really friendly! Where are you from?" Then you can try to build a commonality based on whatever they are saying. Each sentence usually has at least 2 conversational topics you can build off from and go from there. Reward them with a statement then follow up with a relevant question to keep the conversation going. Break rapport to build attraction and qualify them to get investment.
Author:  iluzjonista [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP- what to do after magic opener
Thanks WillEdward

This is good idea- I can see so many topics regarding themselves. There are even so many opening lines which can be used here to break rapport.

But this creates another two questions:

1. What is my goal of that conversation? So after I finish the show they probably see me as confident guy who is not scared with talking to the girls. They just spend like 7-10 minutes with me having good fun- what other values I should demonstrate now? How I will know that there is the right time to close?

2. Most of the time I open the groups of 2-4 peoples- sometimes only girls sometimes mixed groups. Obviously the ideal situation for me is when the girl is alone but this doesn't happen too often. During the show I'm interacting with everybody from the group so after that everybody is excited. As I understand that in such situation I need to keep conversation with everybody. The question is how should I managed to closed that one girl in front of her friends?
Author:  dtrak [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP- what to do after magic opener
When dealing with a large group, in your situation, be polite to eveyone but focus on your target, excuse yourself from the others and start having a small talk with your target, ask questions, make statements, the point of this is to create a connection with your target, then you can try moving her to another side of the venue and keep getting to know eachother ex. "Lets go over ther3 is more quiet"(and lead her there) Befor moving your target make sure she is interested in getting to know you more. How do you do that? Simple, use light flirting during your small talk, compliment her, smile and just show genuine interest and desire through eye contact, she will get the vibe that you like her. If she seems receptive to you then move things forward. Have a good time and pull. Or get number and go for date. But that all depends on logistics. So yea buddy, the key is to direct focus to your target, get to know her, flirt, have fun, lead and close. Simple. Use your head and be smart about it. Good luck

Sidenote: keep in mind how your target is feeling at all times, dont be a creeper, make sur3 shes enjoying your company, otherwise your doing it wrong. It should all feel smooth and fun for everyone. Just be a man, is normal to flirt with girls.
Author:  iluzjonista [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP- what to do after magic opener
Thank you dtak- much appreciated:-) I should add that I'm approaching the groups on the street during a day when they are walking down the street or sitting at the table. This is very difficult to excuse myself in such situation. Could you please advise how should I act in such a situation? Should I still excuse myself and make small conversation with the target face to face (if so how I suppose to do that?) or should I try to close her in front of her friends?
Author:  dtrak [ Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: HELP- what to do after magic opener
Oh, I see. So walking down the street means they are going sumwhere so after you open and run your magic you should treat the group but focus on your target, be direct tell her shes beautiful and you'd like to see her again after a bit of small talk, ask where they are going, maybe you can join her and have a drink while gettin know her. Or just get the number , your excuse is that you are a man and you like her, she'll get the picture, so close close close. Eventually you will get smoother at communicating your intent combined with casual chatter and a focus shift, is should feel smooth and normal, but take the leap and ask for the number ! Practice practice practice ! Now, for seated sets is pretty much the same thing, if she seems interested, and the vibe is good just have a drink with them if possible while focusing on getting to know your target more or just get the number if the logistics dont allow and he situation isnt proper. Remember this is about being smart and using your head, figuring out what you can do in diffrent situations , every girl and situation is diffrent, but your overall frame should me "im a man, I want to get to know you, im going to lead lead lead and make it happen"
Go hard or go home, dont fear rejection. Good luck ! And remember, have fun, keep a good vibe, make sure shes enjoying her time with you. You are the man! Get'em tiger ! Close close close.
Sidenote: dont make any excuse for being a man and wanting her, the group will most likely encourage her to go out with you :) keep it cool and flirt like is normal, they will love it.
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