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| Author: | norwegianburns [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Messed up the opener. |
Basically, I failed to DHV. I usually open girls comfortably about 80% of the time. The remainder are due to AA or weird situations. HB8s and 9 aren't usually an issue for me except this situation. I approached a three set in college and wasn't actively gaming them - basically friend zoning but there was one girl who got my attention really quickly. After fluff talking, I asked, 'Do you want to be mine?' (like Eric Northman in true blood) and she gave this funny look but probably ASD kicked in and said no. Cool. No worries. Then, I basically could not get her out of my head for the rest of the day, a fucking oneitis. I dont usually open up like this - using the AFC version of the apocalypse opener but for some reason I did it on impulse. In the end, I just spaced out and decided not to think about it. Then I had my first PUA dream - a SNL wet dream. Probably kicked in from testosterone high. So I reapproached later on intending to invite them to a house party that me and a couple of mates were hosting. But instead of DHVing, I essentially supplicated and DLVed, 'Do you want to come to the party?' Later on, in commerce class basically she was hanging closely with a guy. No kino but emotional highs. She wasn't aware I was there. Later on, I accidentally dropped my textbooks and lecture notes - an epic fucking disaster and basically she saw me. Trying to keep my calmness, I just piled things together but she was staring at me for a good one second. Now I have 2 questions - Given I've DLVed, what can I do about pulling/pushing? There's little attraction and a tiny bit of rapport. If she's interested in a guy, how do I AMOG him without seeming like a total ass. PS. My state is really high normally so I'm really ADHD and energetic. Basically people usually expect me to be a player from this even though I am far from deserving of the title. norwegianburns San Diego |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Messed up the opener. |
Unassertive "Do you want to..." language works just fine for masculine women. Masculine (non-lesbian) women though are few. For feminine women, more assertive, masculine language works best. So statements (rather than questions) like, "You're mine." and "Come with me to the party. It's cool." increase your odds for better interactions with the more numerous feminine women. Quote: Given I've DLVed, what can I do about pulling/pushing? There's little attraction and a tiny bit of rapport.
Sarge her another day. Most girls won't remember you if you had a lame opener. Girls remember unique, awesome openers though and talk about it at great lengths with their friends.Quote: If she's interested in a guy, how do I AMOG him without seeming like a total ass.
I personally, don't do any AMOGging. Maybe you'll get lucky with the next poster.
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| Author: | norwegianburns [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Messed up the opener. |
Thanks Hellhound. Apart from some good opinions, you've helped me improved the way I frame things. Cheers buddy! |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Messed up the opener. |
No problem bro. Enjoy the forums. |
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| Author: | In$tinct [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Messed up the opener. |
I don't think it is necessary to AMOG the guy. Just don't care about it. You want the girl, right? Not the dude. So focus on the girl, and ignore the dude. Other than that, I agree with HH about being assertive. This goes for basically everything you say or do. Here's a sample from not so long ago. This was a girl that I had some things going on with during summer, though she didn't really felt like cheating on her boyfriend, and so she rejected my kiss. Which I didn't really care about. She is from abroad and I kind of have no idea when we're going to meet next time. Couple of days ago I was curious how she was doing and things started getting hot pretty soon, it's not too important, I'm skipping most of the conversation and only pasting here the relevant part(using assertive language) Quote: Me: By the way don't think I've given up on tasting your lips. I swear the next time I see you I'm going to kiss you. HB: I wish we had more fun that night. I was worried about my conscience because of my boyfriend but then I realized I can't get mad at myself for having fun. Me: Like it is with every good thing in life, you have to wait for me, hun, it's not easy to get to you. HB: I can't wait... Me: Check your phone often. You might get a text from me to come pick me up at the airport some other day. HB: You're crazy. Me: Thanks, good night. a) I don't give a damn about her boyfriend. I don't mention him, I just act as if he didn't exist. b) I don't ask for permission. c) I'm not buying any of her BS and just do and say whatever I feel like. |
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