Asking a mutual friend if her friend is into you is fine. More times than not you would be surprised at how well it goes. You'll either be told she's into you or she's not into you. Save you a lot of face in the long run and allows you to move on sooner rather than later if she's not that into you. Just say "Your friend is cute. Do you think she'd be interested in me/a guy like me?" It's simple and just throwing it out there that you find her attractive, nothing more.
Being forward with kissing a girl... Well, yes and no. It totally depends on the situation and environment such as if you're on any "social lubricants" -- drugs, booze, etc. If alcohol is involved it's kind of a given that if a girl is into you you can be forward and kiss her. If you're not drinking just play it slow, flirt with her, get her number and then ask her out or get her to come out to a pub or club with you and some friends.
Then again, having said that... as a PUA your mentality should be completely different. You should be seizing these opportunities and not caring about any negative outcomes. You should presume you're going to get the girl anyway. You need to change your mindset to this way of thinking.
Also, don't be afraid to look at her. If you shy away from eye contact you're showing a weakness and a lack of interest. You want to convey to a woman that you could be interested, not that you are but could be interested to spike their attraction. If they're already really into you then don't be afraid to let them know you like them. Your whole body language should be strong and masculine which includes holding eye contact, holding her hand when you shake it and not shying away from touching her.
If you want her number just ask for it. "Hey, give me your number. We can hang out sometime." While saying this just hand her your phone. Easy as!
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would prefer to go on a date or two before i kiss her but thats not very manly is it hah Any tips on maybe asking for her number? Should probably just.. ask her!