Great tips guys...Thanx
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| Author: | Pinkfloyd123 [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Can't build attraction |
So, When it comes to building attraction and connection/comfort I have no idea how to do it. I don't understand it. How do I open and ATTRACT her. If you could give me a few examples of what to so if appreciate it. This part of game is unclear to me. What's my objective and how do I get her interested, DHV - I'm unfamiliar with what goes on here. Explaining this step by step would be appreciated. I.E. a successful pattern, that I can understand and memorize. I'm looking for a successful pattern to follow or rules; I noticed that some PUA's talk a certain way to get emotion from her. IF I KNOW THE RIGHT WAY IT'S DONE I can base my interaction off that. It's the first statement and following it is what I have trouble with. I feel like I'm going in set having no idea what's going on, seeing how she's rushing away, pretending to be nice, closed body language. So I back off. If I knew what I was suppose to be doing and knew how to handle my oppenent it'd be easier. in order to cause attraction there are lots of tactics I don't understand. I feel that I have no game plan/tactics when gaming or how to disqualify, neg, DHV & etc.. I.e. imagine doing martial arts without knowledge of the techniques. That's what I feel like. Essentially, I want know what to do in the first few minutes of the intteraction and how to make her interested in me |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can't build attraction |
Firstly, you'll have to consider that on top of feminine women's list that sexually attract them to men is in this order: 1. Dominant masculine personality. 2. Good looks. The difference is REALLY too small although the order is that way and several other list of traits that's around 30 something. To showcase a dominant masculine personality, start with eye contact. Look straight. Don't look down. Learn to eye fuck. Then fix your posture. A good masculine posture goes this way: stomach in - chest out. Don't stoop your shoulders. Chin up. Go to Poetic's epic body language thread and watch his free Youtube videos for more details. Since you appear to have more feminine personality traits (crying, being too sensitive and so on), learn more masculine traits and speak masculine language. Stay away from feminine language and focus on masculine language more. Good looks is really subjective. However, it demonstrates the fact that women are ALSO visual creatures just like men. Imagine that hot girl who loves to wear her plunging neckline blouses and Daisy Dukes. What are the things that she's trying to convey? 1. Look my breasts are full. 2. Guys, take a look at my tight ass and my pussy mound. As men, we can't help but look and remember this hot girl at night before we go to sleep and still remember her the next morning while we take a shower. It's a social taboo for women to admit that they too steal glances at men's asses and bulging cocks. However, there's this experiment where the researcher attached devices to women's pussies to measure wetness as a good indicator of arousal. While all of the women subjects said they were not turned on at all watching porn, the device said otherwise. Their pussies were wet seeing cocks, naked men and sexual intercourse. So what's the point? Accentuate your cock and showcase your ass. That's one very simple and VERY effective way to build attraction while making women's pussies wet. |
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| Author: | Mr_International [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can't build attraction |
Quote: So, When it comes to building attraction and connection/comfort I have no idea how to do it. I don't understand it. How do I open and ATTRACT her. If you could give me a few examples of what to so if appreciate it. This part of game is unclear to me. What's my objective and how do I get her interested, DHV - I'm unfamiliar with what goes on here. Explaining this step by step would be appreciated. I.E. a successful pattern, that I can understand and memorize. I'm looking for a successful pattern to follow or rules; I noticed that some PUA's talk a certain way to get emotion from her. IF I KNOW THE RIGHT WAY IT'S DONE I can base my interaction off that.
You're really asking for a lot of info to be condensed in a single post, but I'll take a shot at DHV because opening can be as simple as introducing yourself (AA is the real killer for me).It's the first statement and following it is what I have trouble with. I feel like I'm going in set having no idea what's going on, seeing how she's rushing away, pretending to be nice, closed body language. So I back off. If I knew what I was suppose to be doing and knew how to handle my oppenent it'd be easier. in order to cause attraction there are lots of tactics I don't understand. I feel that I have no game plan/tactics when gaming or how to disqualify, neg, DHV & etc.. I.e. imagine doing martial arts without knowledge of the techniques. That's what I feel like. Essentially, I want know what to do in the first few minutes of the intteraction and how to make her interested in me Ok, I don't know if you have ever watched the show, Family Matters (Urkel), but there were a few episodes where Steve Urkel (the nerd) went into some machine that changed his whole manner of dress and attitude into a smooth talking player-type named Stephon Ur-Kell. My sister, her friend, and I were watching one of those episodes one day and my sister's friend said "Stephon is so fine!!" I turn to her and say "It's the same guy (same actor as Urkel)!!" So, as you can see, just changing how you dress and your personality can change a woman's perception of you. Stephon DHV'd by not being needy (no longer chasing Laura around like a geek), being confident that Laura wouldn't say no to his advances ("it's ALWAYS on" attitude or "I'm the prize"), his posture was more masculine (no longer hunched over), and his style of dress was that of his target demographic but slightly better. Now, assuming she hasn't blown you off after opening her, you may safely assume she's not embarrassed to be seen talking to you. So you might ask her questions about herself or do a cold reading (women love to talk about themselves) and she will likely ask you something similar. Knowing that, you may ask something that leads her to ask you something interesting about yourself that demonstrates higher value (musical tastes, field of study, talent, etc.). Don't be too obvious about it though. Make it a breadcrumb trail, otherwise you'll wind up looking like you're trying to brag on yourself. Also, don't be afraid to disagree with her. I'm not saying to flat out call her an idiot or anything like that if you don't see eye-to-eye on things, but women hate it when guys are like "Oh, you like such and such?? ME TOO!!" That's DLV and guys do that to chicks ALL THE TIME. Be cool about it, take it in stride, and keep a Poker Face while you respectfully disagree. If you do it right, she'll eventually seek approval from you and can lead to flirting or more interesting conversation to build connection/comfort. |
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| Author: | Pinkfloyd123 [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can't build attraction |
Hellhound & Mr_International, thanks for your replies. We obviously have a lot of ground to cover. **Let me try phrasing my main question better. Say I see a girl walking buy, I want to talk to her but have no idea what is a proper opener. Then once I open I don't know what to say (or what strategy/tactics) to use to get her attracted to me. What could I possibly talk about to a stranger, to build a ground for a convo. So essentially I'm asking how to work game in the first 5 mins. Examples of what to say/do would be appreciated. I want to learn from a successful pattern. I'll stop here before I go further. Hellhound, I'll be sending a pm your way. |
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| Author: | breedlove465 [ Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can't build attraction |
Quote: Hellhound & Mr_International, thanks for your replies. We obviously have a lot of ground to cover.
You're setting yourself up to fail. Setting up a self fulfilling prophecy if you will. You're incredibly nervous to go up and talk to a girl, wondering what on earth you're going to possibly say to her to get her into a conversation and build attraction when in reality it's more of how you say it and how you feel rather than what you say. If you're that nervous you need to walk up to the next twenty girls you see and just say "hello, love your _____". Get rid of that nervousness. Once you do that, you'll see that you can approach girls and build attraction whether you have some perfect line or whether you are speaking a language she doesn't understand. It's about how you come accross and how you say it.**Let me try phrasing my main question better. Say I see a girl walking buy, I want to talk to her but have no idea what is a proper opener. Then once I open I don't know what to say (or what strategy/tactics) to use to get her attracted to me. What could I possibly talk about to a stranger, to build a ground for a convo. So essentially I'm asking how to work game in the first 5 mins. Examples of what to say/do would be appreciated. I want to learn from a successful pattern. I'll stop here before I go further. Hellhound, I'll be sending a pm your way. Memorize two openers. One direct "Hey, like the scarf" and one indirect "hey, give me your opinion on something". Use each of them enough to where you are completely comfortable with them. To where you have no approach anxiety. Follow the three second rule. You see a pretty girl, you start a conversation with in three seconds. You are coming to a forum with the problem of "It's the first statement and following it is what I have trouble with." Well hell, that's the same as saying "I have no idea what I'm doing start to finish". And there's nothing wrong with that dude. But you can study on the internet and ask questions on forums all you want, but it won't help you one bit. Not one tiny little bit. When you are saying that you have no idea how to even start a set, that means that you need more time talking to strangers and girls in the field, not asking how it's done. It sucks but it's the only way. Pick one or two openers, or even just walk up and say "hi my name is blank, had to come over and say hi". Do it over and over again. Once you get past that, you'll start to see a pattern. Either that you are losing interest of the girl after one minute, after two minutes, you are being too nice you are being too aloof, but you can't get those details until you get that nagging feeling out of your head. Good luck dude. |
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| Author: | Monsignor Crisanto [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can't build attraction |
Quote: Hellhound & Mr_International, thanks for your replies. We obviously have a lot of ground to cover.
Focus on the nonverbals rather than the verbal. Once you get the nonverbal component of communication properly handled, it doesn't matter what you say as long as you convey masculine language.**Let me try phrasing my main question better. Say I see a girl walking buy, I want to talk to her but have no idea what is a proper opener. Then once I open I don't know what to say (or what strategy/tactics) to use to get her attracted to me. What could I possibly talk about to a stranger, to build a ground for a convo. So essentially I'm asking how to work game in the first 5 mins. Examples of what to say/do would be appreciated. I want to learn from a successful pattern. I'll stop here before I go further. Hellhound, I'll be sending a pm your way. I say things like, "I want to fuck your pussy and slap my cock on your face." and the reaction is the same for several dozen sarges. Girls giggle and laugh. Tap my arm. Pinch my belly. Rub my chest and isolate with me at my apartment when the timing is right (no work at the moment, no friends around, and so on). I pull that line off every time because my nonverbal component of communication is tight. I doubt it though if you can pull it off since your feminine vibe is so strong. Fix that part and you'll do better. |
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| Author: | Mr_International [ Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can't build attraction |
Quote: Hellhound & Mr_International, thanks for your replies. We obviously have a lot of ground to cover.
As I mentioned, I have AA as well, but the more I'm reading is that it really doesn't matter what you say to open. I'm reminded of when I was doing surveys over the phone (yeah, I was that guy). Some people would wait until I was finished with my opener, others would just cut me off mid-sentence and say "not interested", and others would just go ahead and take the survey. Our opener was nothing mind-blowingly catchy, it was just a simple introduction and then we went on to the first question. We can relate that to PU as an opener and striking up conversation.**Let me try phrasing my main question better. Say I see a girl walking buy, I want to talk to her but have no idea what is a proper opener. Then once I open I don't know what to say (or what strategy/tactics) to use to get her attracted to me. What could I possibly talk about to a stranger, to build a ground for a convo. So essentially I'm asking how to work game in the first 5 mins. Examples of what to say/do would be appreciated. I want to learn from a successful pattern. I'll stop here before I go further. Hellhound, I'll be sending a pm your way. So what I'm saying is nobody can guarantee you success with any pattern, so just take things one step at a time. Hell, you might just find out that once you've gotten over approaching a chick, that you're the biggest natural mack of all time. A question though: what pick-up advice are you learning from (DYD, 60YOC, MM)? |
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| Author: | kinorc [ Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can't build attraction |
Opening isn't really a pattern...you can use canned openers n when I started that's all I would use until I realized it's not that important what u say, just that u go say something. How old r u? If u r college age here's an easy one "hey, I've been having a debate with my friends and need a girls opinion. Beerpong. What are the official rules? Is it 6 cups or 10 cups and water or beer?" She says something n u go from there. If she says 6 n beer...ud say really, think of all the people who drank from those cups that's gross. I think it's 6 n water. From that point I'd fluff talk for a very short amount of time. Then into running the cube by saying she seems like she might be fun but u wanna try a personality test on her to make sure. Cause u hate when u meet someone who seems cool but then after q minutes j realize they aren't n u just wasted ur time. then the Denmark kangaroo routine. Close or instadate it. |
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| Author: | H-Two-O [ Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can't build attraction |
Great tips guys...Thanx
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