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Author:  brandnew2 [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:35 am ]
Post subject:  Locked in the friend zone?

Hey guys, I figured this would be the best place to share my tale. I'm 24 and there is this very cute 20 year old I've been working with for over a year now at my part time job. She's clearly the best looking girl in the building and it would be a nice feather in my cap to conquer her. I've worked at this place for about 5 years now and I used to slay every woman who got hired, even the fat ones. I developed an awful reputation after that so I've toned it down the best I can but for this girl I might want to try. Here's the details.
She texts me or sends me snap chats just about every day. When we work together, she's always following me around and asking me to take my lunch break with her.

She does it so much that co workers are starting to notice and comment on it. I've always kept it cool around her though and don't give off many signs of interest.
She has a long term boyfriend though, apparently someone she's been with since high school. She's always complaining about him though. I try not to get sucked into the "shoulder to cry on" role so I'm usually very cold towards her when she brings him up.

She seems like the type of girl who fully expects to be showered in compliments so I try to neg her at every turn. The other day she said, "I'm just going to come out and say this... when I first got hired, I had a crush on you!" I kept a straight face and said , "Oh, don't worry about it. I'm not offended" and walked away. It definitely wasn't the response she wanted.

Another annoying thing she does is constantly ask me to hang out outside of work but never commit to concrete plans. I try to act really aloof about it too but it's getting tough. Tonight for example she wanted to hang out after work. So as I was driving home she texted me and said "omg you ditched me!" to which I replied "I'm just going home to change, I'll pick you up in 20 minutes," and she said "that's too late!" so I stopped responding to her and she's been blowing up my phone ever since.
I think I'm playing some of my cards right here but the back of my mind worries that she sees me in a strictly platonic way and it's very humbling. Any insight?

Author:  Redlight [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Locked in the friend zone?

Hey man, a long and detailed post like yours deserves to be answered with the same precision... so here it goes...
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Hey guys, I figured this would be the best place to share my tale. I'm 24 and there is this very cute 20 year old I've been working with for over a year now at my part time job. She's clearly the best looking girl in the building and it would be a nice feather in my cap to conquer her. I've worked at this place for about 5 years now and I used to slay every woman who got hired, even the fat ones. I developed an awful reputation after that so I've toned it down the best I can but for this girl I might want to try. Here's the details.
She texts me or sends me snap chats just about every day. When we work together, she's always following me around and asking me to take my lunch break with her
Reputation is a two edge sword; when people talk about you in terms of "he's a ladies man" or "he's always surrounded by beautiful women" it's enticing for other women. When your coworkers go "He banged Alison from front desk" or "he's been doing the nasty with that chick from accounting" it's not so cool... why should they know the details? this means you are lacking in the discretion department, which is the BEST quality a work-place Casanova can hope for... your target will think "If I sleep with him, I will be the talk of the office"... Uncool...
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She does it so much that co workers are starting to notice and comment on it. I've always kept it cool around her though and don't give off many signs of interest.
She has a long term boyfriend though, apparently someone she's been with since high school. She's always complaining about him though. I try not to get sucked into the "shoulder to cry on" role so I'm usually very cold towards her when she brings him up
Women complain about their BFs 24/7, it doesn't necessarily mean she's planning on leaving him or cheating. When they do so to a guy, it's a surefire sign of LJBF. I cut it out with "You know, this isn't Oprah you're talking to" or "If you keep it up, I will have to charge you by the hour". Let her know you are not the proverbial shoulder to cry on... If there's no escaping the BF talk, you can use some BF destroyers like "don't be so hard on him, he's just a nice guy doing the best he can to make it work" (labelling him as a "nice guy" and "try hard" and implying the relationship doesn't work) or "you're probably the prettiest girl he's been with, so he's desperate about losing you" (implying he is of lower value then her and desperate)...
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She seems like the type of girl who fully expects to be showered in compliments so I try to neg her at every turn. The other day she said, "I'm just going to come out and say this... when I first got hired, I had a crush on you!" I kept a straight face and said , "Oh, don't worry about it. I'm not offended" and walked away. It definitely wasn't the response she wanted
Maybe it was too harsh a neg... You could have leaned towards her, smiled and said in a low voice "I know"... Watch the scene from Star Wars when Princess Leia says "I love you" to Han Solo and his reply... works like a charm...
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Another annoying thing she does is constantly ask me to hang out outside of work but never commit to concrete plans. I try to act really aloof about it too but it's getting tough. Tonight for example she wanted to hang out after work. So as I was driving home she texted me and said "omg you ditched me!" to which I replied "I'm just going home to change, I'll pick you up in 20 minutes," and she said "that's too late!" so I stopped responding to her and she's been blowing up my phone ever since.
I think I'm playing some of my cards right here but the back of my mind worries that she sees me in a strictly platonic way and it's very humbling. Any insight?
Flakiness is a shit test... so far you're doing well... In order to minimise the risks, meet her when doing something with a group of your friends, so that regardless if she shows up or no, you are still having fun. I emphasise the importance of YOUR FRIENDS as opposed to coworkers (uncool to game her in front of them) or her friends (who probably know about her relationship). From a group of your friends you can always isolate her without anybody cock-blocking. Get her to a club/party where drinks are flowing and have fun together with her, do plenty of kino and when the time is right isolate. Go for the kiss early in the evening, don't wait until you drop her off from the taxi or the end of the evening.

Worst case, if she insists on the LJBF, you can keep her around as a pawn or pre-selection tool... does it hurt to have such a female presence around when sarging? Don't think so... I have a lady friend, a 9.5 blonde beautician that I go to clubs with every two or three weeks... we always get photographed by the club's official photographer and make it to the Facebook page of the club. This makes for great DHV/pre-selection with my targets...

I hope this helps, keep us posted and good luck!

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