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Author:  Sinverguenza [ Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Mid Game Help- Creating an Emotional Connection

Hey PUAs,

I'm working on this one girl, she's friends with some of my friends. I sat down at a table at my dining hall, won over her friends, of course, I had my friends who were already won over. I mostly ignored her and negged her. She came over and sat with me of her own accord today, and I didn't really know what to do, so I told her that I had to leave soon, negged her some more, and was a little cold to her, but then a bunch of my friends showed up and I had a lot of social proof so I decided to do the cube test on her. I told her that she has low self- esteem, a warm personality, and wants to get people to like her. I'm not really sure how she reacted to it. She seems annoyed at me, but I don't know how much. My question is, how to I start to give her approval and create an emotional connection without having her lose interest in me? In friendships, people like you if you take an interest in them and talk about them and just seem fun to be around, but here, I recognize I need a different strategy.

Thanks guys!

-Sinverguenza

Author:  Bankerbanger [ Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mid Game Help- Creating an Emotional Connection

Well at some point you have to stop negging and do some bait/hook/reel/release to give her a chance to get your approval, don't you think ? Maybe the best time to do so was when she went to sit next to you. Otherwise she'll just end up thinking that you really don't like her for some reason.

The false time constraint thing is for when you are opening, so people know that you will not bother them for long until you reach the hook point when they do not want you to leave. So I am not sure that was useful as well.

The way you describe her cube is like saying :
- You have a low self esteem : You're insecure (negging)
- You want to get people to like you : you are needy (more negging)
- You have a warm personnality : don't know what you mean by that but doesn't sound like any kind of compliment. The main aim of this cold-reading is to teach them about themselves and making them feel good.

I don't know where you can go from there though... Cause basically you negged her every step of the way. If she is as insecure as you described her, that looks pretty hard to recover from. :?

Author:  Sinverguenza [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mid Game Help- Creating an Emotional Connection

Yeah, well I guess I fucked this one up haha. Who cares? One fish in the sea.Thanks for explaining more about negging, I just wanted to see how far I could take it. Answer- pretty far. But once the girl is interested, I guess I should pay more attention to her, doing some kino, teasing, ect. Now I'm gonna research cat-string theory some more.

-Sinverguenza

Author:  meggisonj [ Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mid Game Help- Creating an Emotional Connection

dudeface.. She wasn't annoyed.. she thought you were wrong! That's it. People see it like this.. "I am doing the BEST I can" and if they don't see that.. they change! The only reason cold reading works is people CREATE the positive feelings within themselves to AGREE with the POSITIVE things you say. If she had low selfesteem she would never come over to you. Here's my cube test.. You see a white room.. with a cube in it... how do you feel about it? (THIS IS her overall VIEW of herself!) You ask her.. what's it look like. You cold read THAT mentally and reassure yourself. But then you ask her to change things about the cube until, if it was a guy, it would be at least an 8 out of 10. THIS is what she sees as her BEST QUALITIES. After she feels good about "herself" the rest of it stays positive. Do the cube on yourself after you crashed and burned.. You negged the shit out of her apparently. Keep everything upbeat when in set. If they felt good about the cube.. they feel YOU changed their entire state of mind about life! Instant fucking girlfriend. And you didn't show ANY signs of wanting a relationship. I've been thanked countless times after the cube.

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