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Author:  Wi11ow13 [ Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Mid game struggle....opinions needed
Hi all, I'm trying to build up some game, I've built up some inner game but I haven't settled yet with specific material openers. I feel they are awkward to use, and feel more situational openers more comfortable for me at the moment. But after this I'm finding mid game and maintaining conversation a real difficulty, as I usually lose interest in the conversation and then I just want to bail. Can anyone shed some light or has anyone gone through anything similar, for me to adjust these bad habits.
Thanks fellas :)
Author:  Matrixxx [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mid game struggle....opinions needed
Quote:
Hi all, I'm trying to build up some game, I've built up some inner game but I haven't settled yet with specific material openers. I feel they are awkward to use, and feel more situational openers more comfortable for me at the moment. But after this I'm finding mid game and maintaining conversation a real difficulty, as I usually lose interest in the conversation and then I just want to bail. Can anyone shed some light or has anyone gone through anything similar, for me to adjust these bad habits.
Thanks fellas :)

you need to be more passionate and in the moment. your thinkin too much of the result.
dont get caught up in openers and that kind of stuff, you must let the situation dictate what to say and do.
the most simple "opener' is to just smirk, nod and say hi. her response will show you what to do next. all you need to say next is 'how are you today", then see how she responds. then you respond.

your conversation with the female should feel like a slow song. slow motion. like a trance.
Author:  puaninja [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mid game struggle....opinions needed
Even if you don't use the natural approach, you want it to still seem natural. An opinion opener is far from natural, but if you walk up and introduce yourself, smile, get her name, then tell her you have been thinking about something lately and would like to get her opinion, that will seem very natural.

What kills most sets is a bad approach and running out of things to say, or struggling to come up with random topics for discussion. It comes across as socially awkward. Sometimes I'll hit em' up with a bunch of questions about who they are, what they do, why they are out, who they are with, what they like to do, etc. That way I get a feel for what I'm working with. If they turn those same questions around on me, then the conversation goes twice as long. That's good, now we are building rapport and know a little more about each other.

Then once I know they are single and what they like to do for fun, I can try to establish some rapport. The basic questions are out of the way, and maybe the convo is starting to slow down. So I break out an opinion opener (which I used in mid game). Something like: "Do you believe in astrology?" "Do you believe in ghosts?" Then go into more detail on that topic. Now we have been chatting a while. Time to start with building attraction. "Whoa, I just noticed you have fantastic hair!" (run my finger through her hair). She either smile and blush, or get a creeped out look. More than likely she'll repsond favorably with an ioi if I did the first part of the routine correctly. From there, you just keep building and decide on what type of close you want to go for: Kiss her, get her number, taker her home, all of the above?
Author:  worldrunner [ Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mid game struggle....opinions needed
What kills the set is lack of interest of them in meeting you... I you want to go indirect you better show a lot of value in your stories in order to spark their curiosity and willingness to meet you. If your target are shallow hot super models, you can tell about your trips with your two best friends one that is a DJ and another that is a photographer and how you were invited to enter into the VIP zone of some famous club... At least you should put in your opener some hint that you are that type of person.
If you are into girls who want change the world tell or give hints that you've worked for greenpeace and how once you were able to stop some trees from being cut.
Once you show this amount of "value" even if at the beginning it was awkward they'll forget about it and will start hitting on you, and you do not have to care anymore on what to say next.

The other way is to go direct and state that you are interested in meeting them... once you do that you can start asking personal questions and it will not be awkward and you are not going to face the stage where you do not know what to say next...

If you do not create enough attraction with your routines and stories and you do not dare to go direct you'll have troubles about not knowing what to say next and will end up as a crazy weirdo who was fun to listen for a couple of minutes but that they will never want to meet again, unless they just want to laugh at you.
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