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| Author: | AthleticSmartass [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Massive problems with escalating/kino |
It is easy for me to impress girls (or at least the type of girl I'm usually going for) and to get dates with them. My problem is escalating. I just can't get myself to touch a girl and to get the conversation a bit more sexual. For example a few months ago I went to the cinema with a girl I really liked and the conversation before went really well, she was clearly comfortable around me but I just couldn't get myself to touch her. A few weeks ago I was dancing with a girl and again no touching. I know all the theory about escalating, I've read the Mystery book and David D's Double Your Dating but my problem is really to actually start doing this. Possible reasons (not excuses!) are low confidence with women due to a lack of experience and also that by my upbringing I'm just not used to touching a lot. I think it's a psychological or inner game problem. Does anyone here have any exercises or methods that help me change this? Can you recommend any books or DVDs which could be useful? I was thinking of David D's Man Transformation. I'm really grateful for your help. Right now, I'm really frustrated about this because I know I've had a few hot girls who were interested in me but who lost their interest since I never escalated. |
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| Author: | TheSavant [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Massive problems with escalating/kino |
Quote: It is easy for me to impress girls (or at least the type of girl I'm usually going for) and to get dates with them. My problem is escalating. I just can't get myself to touch a girl and to get the conversation a bit more sexual.
I have the same problem. The only time where I seem to escalate/kino better is when the girl is giving me more direct IOI body language like putting her hand on my chest, facing really close to me, kissing my cheek out of no where, etc. Otherwise, when I kino, the situation just feels ackward. I think kino works best if is done naturally and not forced. Dance club is still the best place to kino IMO, since touching each other is to be expected. If I was in a dance club, I would do my best to keep the girl close to me and escalate from there.
For example a few months ago I went to the cinema with a girl I really liked and the conversation before went really well, she was clearly comfortable around me but I just couldn't get myself to touch her. A few weeks ago I was dancing with a girl and again no touching. I know all the theory about escalating, I've read the Mystery book and David D's Double Your Dating but my problem is really to actually start doing this. Possible reasons (not excuses!) are low confidence with women due to a lack of experience and also that by my upbringing I'm just not used to touching a lot. I think it's a psychological or inner game problem. Does anyone here have any exercises or methods that help me change this? Can you recommend any books or DVDs which could be useful? I was thinking of David D's Man Transformation. I'm really grateful for your help. Right now, I'm really frustrated about this because I know I've had a few hot girls who were interested in me but who lost their interest since I never escalated. |
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| Author: | Jay dog [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:08 am ] |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csnQWDPD9Ps Cheers, Jay D |
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| Author: | pumpington [ Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:16 am ] |
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chiefs-guide-to-outer-game-vt75887.html read the part on the compliance ladder, you can use chief's example, or make your own linnear ladder, when you start, use a linnear compliance ladder that follows steps, shamelessly escalate up that ladder as fast as you can with every girl you talk to while practising in field, if you get blown out then that is a good sign that you are actually practising and escalating at a rate worthy of gaining experience, compliance builds momentum, if you get stuck at a level of compliance and she is not comfortable with you escalating further, take a step back in the ladder, and keep requesting that level of compliance over and over for a while then try to run up the ladder again after gaining more compliance at the lower level, as for bringing the conversation more sexual, don't worry about the sexual framing to much, if you know what qualification is you can qualify a girl sexually, if she is not comfortable with it she just wont qualify, not like it is the end of the world, but sexual frames are not as important as physical compliance, you can turn a girl on just by playing with her ass and that will be more effective usually then sexual framing, getting horny and thinking about you and the girl you are talking to having sex together or imagining her sucking you off, can also help you set a more sexual vibe, you will just naturally sub-communicate sexuality better with your vocal tonality and kino will become more natural because when you are horny you are naturally going to want to be close to her and fuck the shit out of her, if you got some decent level of compliance you will probably be getting horny anyway, and when she starts reciprocating you can bet she is also getting horny |
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