PUA Forum :: Flakiest girl ever.

you have started too many of these conversations and being too available. Stop doing that!
Don't text her anymore, call to setup a meet...an actual date. If she flakes again, forget about her. If she contacts you make her apologize and to make it up to you.

You never want to just go after one girl, always play multiple girls until you are in a relationship.

You could of avoided all of this if you just would of been upfront with her whit what you wanted from her.

That's the other mistake i made, I should've been upfront. Fuck.
Oh well, i learnt a lot from this, thanks guys, I'll be upfront from now on.

But i guess this train has already left.
Should i just delete her number, or are chances 0?

This chick is complicated.
In the beginning, I told her that i would call her, she said "Ok do that".
And everytime i did, no answer.

She's making these dead ends too.

Whatever interaction i would do to her now, would make me feel needy. So maybe i should wait a couple of days with doing anything.

Me: Just work and well find a time.

Bam. seems like it all turned around, Thank you so much guys.
But i have no clue have to go on with this:p
THe talk over the phone thing might fail again.

Alright, I'll make plans. But last time we made plans, she flaked. I need her NOT TO FLAKE

I just wrote her,
"Let's meet tonight or tomorrow and watch a comedy"

and she will probably not answer if i know her routines.

This is what i'm telling you, we've made plans before about meeting but she flakes on them last second.

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That's why you strike when the iron's hot, like it was when you said she was interesting.

She knows she's going to have some social anxiety around you, it's easier for her to flake than to go through with it and have to feel awkward. You have to make it as easy as possible to say yes, and be interesting enough for it to be worth it. This means- definite plans on definite days, and expressing yourself fully.

"Let's go see a movie tomorrow. I'll pick it, but I need to know where you live so I know the right theater." (I live in a big city, there are many to choose from). After she tells you, quickly decide on a movie and showing, then text her 30 min later to tell her what it is. "Alright, so [wherever] at [whenever]. If you're gonna flake this time, do it in advance, I need time to make other plans."

This says, I know what I want, I'm going to lead and make it easy for you to say yes to me. The last sentence lets her know to respect you though, you have things going on in my life, and she could easily stop being one of them.

Author:	RozZy [ Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:41 am ]
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OK i had enough of this ... sorry but I'm actually gonna call her a bitch. Never encountered a bigger flaker in my entire life. I met this girl at a bar, its my female friends, friend. We exchanged number, we started texting . So my female friend, and one of my guy friend came over to my place to chill, and she was supposed to come as well. And it wasn't me asking her, it was my female friend. We waited and waited... and she didn't respond her phone... Seems like she was with this guy thats her "Friend". Flake number 1. The funny thing is that my female friend is even trying her best to Hook us up, but she keeps on flaking. We kept on texting , i built attraction, but i realized i was a bit needy in the text messages, but it worked out a bit anyway, because she asked me if i wanted to go and see a Football game at hooters with her and her room mate at that same day 5.30. I asked if i could bring my friend, she said "yes bring anyone".' So we went there 5.30, nobody there. I texted her, no response. And then at 6 pm, she texted and said they had changed the venue. I know that at this point, you're not supposed to give any negative respond, but this was just a bit over the line so I mildly wrote. "Tell me earlier next time" And after that i said that i had a personal trainer appointment at 8 pm so i wouldnt make it anyway. I started to feel, "Damn this girl is SUPER good practice for text game " So i didnt want to give her up. She came over on Xmas eve for dinner, and we went to see a concert with her and her friends. The day after she texted me: "You made me really feel good last night, thank you " We kept on texting , this time, i felt the game was going awesome. I waited 30 min with each response, and acted like i didnt give a sh1t and wrote short messages, her messages was LONG as hell.. sometimes she wrote 2-3 messages in a row with a lot of smilies. It got to the point that she asked ME "We should chill. If you can?" Me: "Cool, you been to mulholland dr and seen the view" She: "Nope " Me: "Ill take you there tomorrow night" She: "Okay " Me: "7pm ok?" She : "Yes" We texted the day after and everything was fine, until 30 minutes before we're supposed to go out: Her: I think i'm gonna stay home and chill and assemble my furniture that arrived. Me: I'm a master of assembling stuff. I could give you a hand. NO response. AFTER THIS EVERYTHING WENT DOWNHILL. Texted her the day after, nothing about the flakiness at all. No response.. waited 2 days, after now i texted: Me: Thats wierd... i just saw a guy that looks exactly like you. She: What! Me: I didnt know that you made a gender change.' (Her response 10 hours later) Her: Lol that's funny maybe I have a twin :O Me: Maybe (2 hours later) Me: Be happy you're not Asian. Everyone would be your twin. Her: Hahaha... True Me: Do you have Asians in Pittsburgh ? (She's from there) Her: Heaps Her: They all go to the uni. Me: Pittsburgh Uni? lol Me: Theres a university in Sweden for blondes, where they teach you how to turn on lights and how to open doors (She's blonde). Her: Durr Her: Wow really?! Omg thats such a smart idea Her: Me: I can recommend you as a teacher. Me: What do you actually work with here btw? And she didn't respond AGAIN. AND HERE I AM frustrated and angry.. because when i'm with her, meeting her, she's farking awesome, things go perfect, but as soon as it goes over to the digital world, everything goes to hell. I have theories about her farking another guy. And i heard stuff about it. Please i would be SO grateful if anyone could help me What am i doing wrong?

Author:	kingmack07 [ Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:28 pm ]
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you have started too many of these conversations and being too available. Stop doing that! Don't text her anymore, call to setup a meet...an actual date. If she flakes again, forget about her. If she contacts you make her apologize and to make it up to you. You never want to just go after one girl, always play multiple girls until you are in a relationship.

Author:	RozZy [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:52 am ]
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Quote: you have started too many of these conversations and being too available. Stop doing that! Don't text her anymore, call to setup a meet...an actual date. If she flakes again, forget about her. If she contacts you make her apologize and to make it up to you. You never want to just go after one girl, always play multiple girls until you are in a relationship. Wow, i think ive been over thinking it too much so its gone this far, you're totally right. I wont contact her anymore at all.

Author:	Foolofswagg5 [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:12 am ]
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You could of avoided all of this if you just would of been upfront with her whit what you wanted from her. It seems like you are mad at your self for wasting all this time and expecting her to be available to hang out with you. Honestly I would recomend moving on there is going to be another girl that won't give you the run around. If she was truly interested in you she would not of had flaked on you. I have a question during all of the interactions you had with her did you ever tell her you where interested in her sexually or for a relationship? learn from this and move on.

Author:	Slip n Slide [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:30 am ]
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Quote: You could of avoided all of this if you just would of been upfront with her whit what you wanted from her. Truer words have never been spoken. If youre upfront with every girl you meet, you will NEVER have this problem. You'll have kissed them by the second time you see them, and everyone will love you as a genuine and honest guy. She isn't sure of your intentions, so the game playing has to happen from both ends. Not going to pay off for you.

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Author:	RozZy [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:35 am ]
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That's the other mistake i made, I should've been upfront. Fuck. Oh well, i learnt a lot from this, thanks guys, I'll be upfront from now on. But i guess this train has already left. Should i just delete her number, or are chances 0?

Author:	Domr [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:13 am ]
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Quote: That's the other mistake i made, I should've been upfront. Fuck. Oh well, i learnt a lot from this, thanks guys, I'll be upfront from now on. But i guess this train has already left. Should i just delete her number, or are chances 0? call her i learned this lesson myself, text game can be legit but without a "purpose" the neediness from just texting outweighs the attraction (in the long run) so build a bit of attraction over text than ask out, etc or alternatively go from text to phone to ask out but never just text after text after text.

Author:	RozZy [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:08 am ]
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This chick is complicated. In the beginning, I told her that i would call her, she said "Ok do that". And everytime i did, no answer. She's making these dead ends too. Whatever interaction i would do to her now, would make me feel needy. So maybe i should wait a couple of days with doing anything.

Author:	Domr [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:11 am ]
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Quote: This chick is complicated. In the beginning, I told her that i would call her, she said "Ok do that". And everytime i did, no answer. She's making these dead ends too. Whatever interaction i would do to her now, would make me feel needy. So maybe i should wait a couple of days with doing anything. or week(s) or even a month. True it WILL make you feel needy BUT remember doing nothing accomplishes nothing. Until you get a HARD blowout e.g. she says stop texting/calling or her body language and vocal responses in the real world screen "don't talk to me." don't delete the number.

Author:	FlyAfc [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:50 pm ]
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Agree with everything thats been said, you've invested too heavily in this one girl and thats turning her off. Foregt about her for abit as she affecting you negatively and go find some more girls to game and get your confidence back up. If shes your 'friends friend' she will probably hear about you or see you with other girls which due to pre-selection will just make you more attractive anyway. If you want to attract her you need to invest less and get her to start wanting to invest in you. Personally though she doesnt seem worth your effort.

Author:	RozZy [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:57 pm ]
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I started reading David M's internet guide.. DAMN my confidence just got boosted. I started getting messages from girls on Match and POF (8-10) that where qualifying to me!! Thanks to that i said, fuck it, im gonna be straight forward so i texted her again. One last chance: Me: I'm gonna be straight with you, I find you interesting, but it's hard to get you know you by texting. Her: I agree Her: It sucks when I work now all the time too! Ugh Me: Just work and well find a time. Bam. seems like it all turned around, Thank you so much guys. But i have no clue have to go on with this:p THe talk over the phone thing might fail again.

Author:	Slip n Slide [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:04 pm ]
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Quote: Me: Just work and well find a time. Bam. seems like it all turned around, Thank you so much guys. But i have no clue have to go on with this:p THe talk over the phone thing might fail again. What turned around? You didn't make plans, nothing turned around. You were upfront about your sexuality til here, where you revealed that you have no sexuality. You're an orbiter, she knows she could always have you, but you never make a solid push, so you remain in orbit. "I find you interesting, it's hard to get to know you. So let's hang out in the unspecified future" "Ok herp derp" then nothing ever happens. MAKE PLANS. Real life counts! More texting does not count!

Author:	RozZy [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:08 pm ]
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Alright, I'll make plans. But last time we made plans, she flaked. I need her NOT TO FLAKE I just wrote her, "Let's meet tonight or tomorrow and watch a comedy" and she will probably not answer if i know her routines. This is what i'm telling you, we've made plans before about meeting but she flakes on them last second. But last time i guess she didn't know what i wanted? I think i messed this one up too badly for recovery.

Author:	Slip n Slide [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:45 pm ]
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Quote: Alright, I'll make plans. But last time we made plans, she flaked. I need her NOT TO FLAKE I just wrote her, "Let's meet tonight or tomorrow and watch a comedy" and she will probably not answer if i know her routines. This is what i'm telling you, we've made plans before about meeting but she flakes on them last second. That's why you strike when the iron's hot, like it was when you said she was interesting. She knows she's going to have some social anxiety around you, it's easier for her to flake than to go through with it and have to feel awkward. You have to make it as easy as possible to say yes, and be interesting enough for it to be worth it. This means- definite plans on definite days, and expressing yourself fully. "Let's go see a movie tomorrow. I'll pick it, but I need to know where you live so I know the right theater." (I live in a big city, there are many to choose from). After she tells you, quickly decide on a movie and showing, then text her 30 min later to tell her what it is. "Alright, so [wherever] at [whenever]. If you're gonna flake this time, do it in advance, I need time to make other plans." This says, I know what I want, I'm going to lead and make it easy for you to say yes to me. The last sentence lets her know to respect you though, you have things going on in my life, and she could easily stop being one of them.

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Author:	RozZy [ Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:52 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: Alright, I'll make plans. But last time we made plans, she flaked. I need her NOT TO FLAKE I just wrote her, "Let's meet tonight or tomorrow and watch a comedy" and she will probably not answer if i know her routines. This is what i'm telling you, we've made plans before about meeting but she flakes on them last second. That's why you strike when the iron's hot, like it was when you said she was interesting. She knows she's going to have some social anxiety around you, it's easier for her to flake than to go through with it and have to feel awkward. You have to make it as easy as possible to say yes, and be interesting enough for it to be worth it. This means- definite plans on definite days, and expressing yourself fully. "Let's go see a movie tomorrow. I'll pick it, but I need to know where you live so I know the right theater." (I live in a big city, there are many to choose from). After she tells you, quickly decide on a movie and showing, then text her 30 min later to tell her what it is. "Alright, so [wherever] at [whenever]. If you're gonna flake this time, do it in advance, I need time to make other plans." This says, I know what I want, I'm going to lead and make it easy for you to say yes to me. The last sentence lets her know to respect you though, you have things going on in my life, and she could easily stop being one of them. Alright! Thanks, this helps me a lot for next time!