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| Author: | Zeus188 [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:13 am ] |
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Hey, im sort of new to this PUA thing so i though i would read some forums and try out some moves. i started with an opener on an HB7, it was an opener from 'the pickup artist' that i thought was pretty good. i have shortened the opener a little- Me: if a guy and girl are going out, and the girl kisses another girl, is that classed as cheating? HB7: yeah i think it is, unless its just a quick kiss on the lips after this conversation ran dry i negged her- Me: 'your nose wiggles when you talk, did you know that? its really cute' HB7: (laughs and starts to turn away) i didnt want to lose her as it was my first attempt, so i got her attention again with a DHV Me: do you believe in spells? HB7: not really after this, i preformed ESP on her and she just laughed and said, HB7: you have your cheesy lines sorted i joked about how i used it to meet new people, After that she turned away again and i ejected because she didnt seem interested. Where did i go wrong? my opener seemed fine so is it my mid game? |
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| Author: | sandwiches [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:57 am ] |
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How was your eye contact, smile, and presence? |
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| Author: | Zeus188 [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:06 am ] |
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there didnt seem like there was anything wrong with any of those. i was smiling comfortably, there wasnt any awkward eye contact, im not sure about presence though |
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| Author: | *FlaiR* [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:14 am ] |
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Well... you did several things wrong, let me break them down for you.. #1 The nose wiggle neg must be done when she speaks.. you cut her out and you say: "Omg it's so cute.. your nose wiggles when you talk haha" That way it looks more realistic. You said that to her after the conversation ran dry and there was a silence right? So she wasn't talking when you said your line.. therefore.. girls are really good at non verbal cues - interpreting language.. she saw that you read that line somewhere.. you had no authenticity. Women are the best lie detecters ever.. so "a true PUA must either be a great actor or really believe his lies/material" NEIL STRAUSS aka STYLE #2 If your targets turns away.. you punish her.. you do not chase her. Teach her a lesson.. talk to a girl near you or roll off from her. "In order to get a girl.. you need to have the willigness to walk away" MYSTERY Your nobody's bitch.. so while she turns her back towards you..don't chase afterwards #3 You ejected the set.. which is the easy road. Growth is done in the uncomfortable zone.. staying in comfort (ejecting a weird set) will not get you far ahead in game. Now you can show her an IOD like I said in step #2.. but don't eject. Guess what? If she didn't just walk away from you.. the game is still on.. if she really doesnt want you she will walk away.. trust me! #4 When she says you have your cheesy lines sorted.. dont say.. yeah I have cheesy lines in my vocabulary. That's a DLV.. you should'v negged her say: Cheesy lines? Girl I'm just giving you nice conversation.. I'm not trying to hit on you! Or are you trying to hit on me right now? Hope I helped! Good luck in field! |
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| Author: | *FlaiR* [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:17 am ] |
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Quote: there didnt seem like there was anything wrong with any of those.
Smiling comfortably is not enough.. you must smile like you won the lottery!! i was smiling comfortably, there wasnt any awkward eye contact, im not sure about presence though 
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| Author: | DaveUrkel (BlackWhitePU) [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:31 am ] |
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Dude, you seem like you were doing fine. You just ejected too early. You have to start interpreting girls saying things like "You have you're cheesy lines sorted" as flirting. If you keep interpreting it as a bad thing, it will lead you down a bad road. Valentyn was right about most of the things he said, except for the fact that none of the errors that he mentioned that you made were fatal errors. They were all small errors that would not have made a huge difference in the end. The only error that WAS a fatal error was ejecting too soon. You are definitely at the stage in your learning process where ejecting too early is one of the biggest fatal errors you can make, because you don't know how to interpret whether a girl is into or not yet. You just have to assume that she IS into you, until she walks away. Later down the line, leaving sets will benefit you, because you dont want to talk to girl for 20 minutes who doesnt even want to fuck you, but that's not the stage you're at yet. |
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| Author: | Zeus188 [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:12 am ] |
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thanks guys you helped me a lot, i will try again and post my field reports 
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| Author: | *FlaiR* [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:37 pm ] |
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Quote: thanks guys you helped me a lot, i will try again and post my field reports
I recommend you make a journal.. I did.. and really.. it helps a lot!! You can see your progress and you can analyze what you did good/wrong each sarging day..
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