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| Author: | xtremalas [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | verbal game |
I don't have problems opening or escalating. I m dancing a lot and just that makes girls attracted. Now if I m in a nightclub, yeah I can k-close with girls and so on, BUT what I need help on is when I m not in the night club. Let's take dance situation. Once I dance I little with a girl and get her interested, IOI's and so, I always f*ck up once we stop dancing and start talking. Don't get me wrong, I m not running out of things to say, I can talk for hours with complete stranger, there is no anxiety. The problem is that what I m saying is not bringing me anywhere. I could put it this way: non-verbal part pulls them like a charm; Verbal part pushes to friend zone like a curse; Really need tips, advises, ANYTHING! I feel like this is the only part missing for me for things to really kick in... |
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| Author: | snillaheart [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:53 pm ] |
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proper verbal game should have push pull, negs, dhvs, humor, sexual tension escalation all while escalating with kino too when you get in the friend zone it usually means you didnt escalate right with kino or sexual tension. at some point you really should start talking about sex so she doesnt mistake you for a friend, throw in sexual innuendo |
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| Author: | Haakzter [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:34 pm ] |
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Dang I have this problem too, but it's even worse for me. I can't find shit to talk about. In clubs or whatever the situation really, I often get IOIs in the beginning. Then I got nothing to say, and thtn they move on to the next guy, normally. |
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| Author: | stefangreyman [ Tue Aug 30, 2011 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: verbal game |
Look, there is tons of formula out there to read about how to structure opening conversation, but it sounds like you have already physically opened with these girls on the dance floor and what you really need is to either (1) escalate, or (2) build rapport. They are very different techniques, though can be used together. Gambler has some excellent vids if you hunt around the site you'll find links. You also need to think about how you want to close--what are you after? If you want a day 2, get her number and be done for the night. If you want to get laid, escalate and be clear. Don't hang around until she is bored because conversation isn't your strong suit--and frankly a club is a crap place to have a conversation anyway. |
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