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Author:  OPatrao [ Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:31 pm ]
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Me and my girlfriend have been together for over 2 months and we still haven't had sex.

I'm 23 and she's 24. I live without my parents and share a house with a friend so we have no problem finding a place to do it. After 2/3 weeks we started dating she started coming here and we go to the bed, lay down and kiss each other. 1 week later I try talking to her about it but she tells me it's still too soon. 2 weeks later (we talked a bit about this in between) we have a more serious conversation and I end up telling I'm a virgin. She doesn't tell me right away but a few days later she also tells me she's a virgin. I try not to bring the topic again for a while but when we were close to be dating for 2 months we talked again and now a week later once more.

She tells me she doesn't really know why but that she's not ready yet and doesn't want to make any mistakes. She even asked me if I was with her for sex.

Dumping her is not an option because I really like her but I want to have sex and considering we have the means and we actually are in bed many times kissing but always end up not going for it is really frustrating. She even told me that when she thinks she ready she will tell me before it happens, which means even though what we do, she doesn't even consider doing it if she is having fun one time while here with me.

Does anyone have any advice for my situation?
Author:  Snarg [ Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:20 pm ]
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She's a virgin. Girls generally hold their virginity to a higher level than guys do. She probably wants to make sure the guy she's with will be an integral part of her life before making that big of a jump. So, you can either break up with her or give her time. But do not force the issue as that will only cause problems.
Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:42 pm ]
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you don't talk to your girlfriend about having sex.

that won't help.

just because she is your girlfriend, doesn't mean that you don't have to seduce her.

"living together" is not a ticket to sex, my friend, ATTRACTION is.

what are you doing to make her WANT to fuck you?

just being there?

if she's a virgin, she wants it to be passion and fireworks, and quite frankly, for the health of your relationship, you better to!

take her out on a date, take her for a romantic drive, find a secluded spot somewhere, and talk about some silly deep shit, look deeply into her eyes, and then see what happens!
Author:  OPatrao [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:57 am ]
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We don't live together. And this: "She even told me that when she thinks she ready she will tell me before it happens, which means even though what we do, she doesn't even consider doing it if she is having fun one time while here with me." doesn't go well with taking her somewhere and also I have no idea what that place could be, my room is the best place we have available.

When we're in my bed we kiss on mouth, neck and ears and she let's me put my hand on her ass but that's how far it goes.
Author:  Mr_Amazing [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:13 am ]
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You need to get a chick on the side. Not just any chick though. You need a slut to take your viginity. Why? Because I think you problem is that you let your woman dominate the relationship. When you do that, you are communicating to her that you do not have options. The seduction community puts a lot of emphasis on "attraction", however when you are actually in a relationship, you should focus on conveying that you have options. You dont have to dump the the girl, just get some ass. From someone else.
Author:  OPatrao [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:38 am ]
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That's out of question. I would never do that to her. I'd rather wait 1 year than do something like that.
Author:  Mack 2.0 [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:56 am ]
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sounds like you've got a decent girl there.

give her the time that she needs.

just keep being wonderful (and attractive, edgy, seductive) "you" and eventually she will be ready for the love-bone.

oh, and lots of wanking off to relieve your horrible repression.

and if you think that "your room" is the best place you could have passionate sex with your girlfriend, that's kind of .......................... (fill in the blank)

good luck though.
Author:  Fvckitimout [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:57 am ]
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Well you are lying to her.

Are you really with her not for the sex?

If so then why do you keep pressing her about it.

I think you are just to scared to step out into the "singles" isle because you are afraid of being alone, so you will just wait for her to put out.

But when she does, you start losing interest in her and how you pay attention to her decreases.

But still you seem like a respectful guy. I like you. Your not like the assholes that i hear ever so often from the girls ive gamed who gets their virginity taken and then treated like dirt right after.

You better be fucking nice to this one even after she puts out.
Author:  Mr_Amazing [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:30 am ]
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That's out of question. I would never do that to her. I'd rather wait 1 year than do something like that.
Seeing that she is 24, I think a year of waiting should be out of the question. 24 is a very abnormal age to still be a virgin for a woman. Its kind of ironic you said 1 year...I know a few women who were older virgins (21 or older when they lost their virginity). They all had the same story: Dated a guy for about a year, no sex. Then dumped the guy and had sex with guy #2 almost immediately.
Author:  OPatrao [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:08 pm ]
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I really like her and we even were friends for a few months before we started dating, so it's no random girl that I jsut want to get into bed. But it's normal for me to feel this way. I understand that she needs to wait but I have waited more than I was really expecting and she needs to understand that I want this very much.

And about it being in my room, it's not like we have the money to anything crazy and with such an easy place to do it, why go a long way?
Author:  Txacoli [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:59 pm ]
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It's not about having sex somewhere else necessarily. But you have to build some romance, put some effort into it. I know how you feel man, my first GF made me wait for 6 months, I was a virgin, so was she. But I was always making sure I got her horny during makeouts, so she was really struggling to say no. Do you make your girl horny? Try escalating more and more. Escalate into heavy petting and just repeat to her you respect her and you'll wait for her while taking her bra off. She won't do the actual intercourse until she's ready, but making these small steps will help her feel more comfortable. She has to trust you. If you can get her to be naked with you in bed while you kiss and touch, that's great, sex is just the next step. So escalate to that point, keep telling her you respect her and love spending time with her, let her feel you're not going anywhere after you hit it. Make her horny, make her comfortable with the idea of your penis, let her touch it, show her you like it, show her it feels good. A male's penis can be scary to a virgin, she has to get comfortable playing with it before she can let you penetrate her.
Author:  OPatrao [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:37 pm ]
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The problem is that we won't get any further than we already are and by what she said, we'll only have sex when she tells me something like "it's going to happen soon".
Author:  Txacoli [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:49 pm ]
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So are you naked together in bed? If not you can tell her you wanna feel her body and you promise not to do anything, you respect her and so on. Describe how good it would be to feel her naked body next to yours, make it vivid and so on. You have to escalate this thing so she wants it. By what you're saying, I don't think you're making her horny enough. Can she barely control herself?
Author:  OPatrao [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:14 pm ]
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No, we're just in bed with clothes on. And I'm not even close to making her barely control herself.
Author:  Txacoli [ Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:48 pm ]
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Ok, I think you should try escalating slowly and make her feel your desire for her, that's a big turn-on. She needs to be aroused to want to have sex. If she puts up resistance, stop. Make her miss your touch, then start again going a step further. Read up on LMR and see if you can use something. And read what Ryan has to say here: how-can-i-arouse-her-while-making-out-vt81818.html

But it's crucial to advance in escalation every time you're together. Don't go caveman on her, but do escalate. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me or write here.

Can I ask you something? Does she turn you on? I mean, do you want to do ungodly things to her??
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