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Author:  kaDak8 [ Wed May 11, 2011 12:16 am ]
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Hi

I need some advice from you guys, I think this isn't at all too late to fix this problem but I don't know how.

I have this new girlfriend now. She is a HB 9.5, has almost 1000 friends on facebook. So many guys text, facebook message, poke her all the time I can't beleive it. 90% of her fiends are guys including her best friend who is secretly in love with her (WTF btw...). She loves attention, flirts with everyone, keeps in touch with all her ex boyfriens, goes out partying 2-3 days a week. She's 22 now, has slept with at least 20-30 guys I think. What I feel is that it all comes from her inner insecurity. In the inside she's just a little girl who needs validation all the time. What the most suprising to me was the she hates rough sex, all she wants is making love and cuddling.

How we met: She added me on a social network site 4 years ago and has been "friends" there ever since, but never talked. She sent me this message 3,5 years ago, which I never replied. But now it was her birthday a month ago so I added her on facebook and wrote her a message. She replied, we chatted for 3 days and finally met. I f-closed her within 6 hours of meeting her.

Game details: I set myself as the prize from the beginning. Ever since we 1st chatted on SPAM I kept telling her that she cannot have sex with me till marriage. I wanted to differentiate myself from the 100s of orbites she has. She started off as my 89th girlfriend and could earn points if she did nice thigs to me. :) She quickly moved up the ladder by really working on pleasing me. I used future projections a lot and has been qualifing and false disqualifing her all the time. We really have a lot in common btw, it's crazy. But a week ago she asked me if she could be my number 1 girl (aka my girlfiend). I told her that I have 2 conditions: she can't keep in touch nor meet her ex boyfriends and she can't lie to me. She agreed and we've been a couple since.

But now she left her facebook open and there were 3 chat conversations a bit shocking, all with guys (of course):

1) there was this guy who she wanted to sleep over at her place a week ago. (I don't think it has happened yet, btw she claims that she only has sex with me)

2) a few days ago she was telling her best friend that she's not sure about me.

3) she just messaged her ex boyfriend today that they should totally meet either tomorrow or on friday. the guy agreed.

She does not know that I read these. But what she does is keeping in touch with exes and lying.

I really enjoy being with her she's fun and sex is great. I just wanna know how I could make her totally want me. To make her chase me and want me (and not cheat on me). I think this is a rather odd story but I'm sure you guys have some great advice. Please help!
Author:  kaDak8 [ Wed May 11, 2011 1:50 am ]
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the key is to make her go into this obsessed mode
I totally agree with this. But how?

a) give her time, let her cheat on me for a while, keep gaming her

b) give her a freezout, push-pull, to see if she would chase me

c) tell her that she left her facebook open and that now she's back to 2nd position

d) anything else?
Author:  kaDak8 [ Wed May 11, 2011 10:16 am ]
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the thing is that we agreed on being exclusive but she is obviously seeing other guys too. any suggestions on how to make her chase me and quit seeing everyone else?
Author:  bigdog225 [ Wed May 11, 2011 12:35 pm ]
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the thing is that we agreed on being exclusive but she is obviously seeing other guys too. any suggestions on how to make her chase me and quit seeing everyone else?
Dump her, it seems your self respect flew out the window...either that or you enjoy being lied to and manipulated
She's a slut, and I guarantee once you dump her, she'll come crawling back to you.
Author:  Wal [ Wed May 11, 2011 1:18 pm ]
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the thing is that we agreed on being exclusive but she is obviously seeing other guys too. any suggestions on how to make her chase me and quit seeing everyone else?
At what point does she say, "Yes we are exclusive," and you start to believe her after the knowledge you've gleaned from her Facebook page? The 3rd time she says it? The 4th? Obviously the circumstances of that original conversation matter, but the result was that she misled you. Are you sure you aren't trying to "make this girl chase you" just to prove to yourself that you can? To tame the beast?

You could obviously have a lot of fun with this girl, but I wouldn't expect exclusivity if she is still gaming other guys.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Wed May 11, 2011 2:56 pm ]
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if he games woman why she can't ? that sounds stupid , however some issues do not have to do with how you are in relationships or pickup... some people are messsed up in the brain an you cannot do really anything about it.

i've dated hot girls even very hot ones but they did not have 1000+ facebook contacts from which 90 % is dude. she speaks and meets guys as well like her ex ......

i do not agree she's a slut ... she is just an attention whore - she is addicted to attention and sounds neurotic. people who are fucked up deep inside without realizing will drag you with them.....

1. your heading for disaster
2. shes broken material dude
3. dump her

btw i was going to date such girl today .... i rejected her this afternoon ... im not emotionally attached like you are at least i can exract myself.

you will never find rest or peace with someone like this in your life .. you are already too emotional asking us for advice meaning you already are unsatisfied with your relationship.....

if you break up for 1 week she ''probably'' bangs some other dude (s) even it's only a week tho. just dont get into relationships with people like this, yes they are fun to game and they polish your skills but keep it at that.

the whole text above is most probable .... however meeting or talking to these guys doesnt mean she's fucking them , if she steps over your boundaries and values you need to adress her .... 3 strikes out is my rule - if she steps over my rules 3 times i would dups her. however yet again .. your heading for ''a'' disaster .
Author:  kaDak8 [ Wed May 11, 2011 4:36 pm ]
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Dump her (...) and I guarantee once you dump her, she'll come crawling back to you.
What would be good dumping line? Like... she doesn't know that I read those conversations on her facebook. So how could I dump her?
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to prove to yourself that you can? To tame the beast?
That's exactly what my point is. Taming the beast. She is fun, hot, young and I'm learning so many things. BTW, she is not wife material at all, I know that.

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you are already too emotional asking us for advice
This is not the case. I just wanna hear your experiences and learn so that I can improve my game.
Author:  JME [ Thu May 12, 2011 3:29 am ]
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beauty is something born with or bought. The real beauty is what you make of yourself and what your personality tells those you are close to. If she did not have looks, I think she would be much less popular. When I have a girlfriend problem, I usually wonder what realm the problem stems from. Seems like she cannot respect you because she hasn't developed her personality outside her beauty.
Author:  spandrel [ Thu May 12, 2011 4:19 am ]
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a) give her time, let her cheat on me for a while,
LOL!

If you let her cheat on you she will do it continually. More than one woman who has cheated on me has come home to packed bags in the hall.
Author:  Wal [ Thu May 12, 2011 1:21 pm ]
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to prove to yourself that you can? To tame the beast?
That's exactly what my point is. Taming the beast. She is fun, hot, young and I'm learning so many things. BTW, she is not wife material at all, I know that.
If you're into "taming the beast" (nothing wrong with that, mind you) you might reconsider trying to tame the beast into a relationship. For most guys, the taming the beast phase is the pick-up phase. This gives you skills to go out and get dates. Then, when you meet a girl that knocks your socks off that doesn't need too much taming, you upgrade to a consistent girlfriend. Not the other way around.
Author:  cedius [ Fri May 13, 2011 4:26 am ]
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It's been a while since I've been on, but I'll chime in with what I think...

Mind you, there is a lot of good food for thought her but the below comment stuck out for me...
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You will never find rest or peace with someone like this in your life .. you are already too emotional asking us for advice meaning you already are unsatisfied with your relationship.....
Why do you want to "Tame the beast"...you ever hear the saying, "A leopard can't change it's spot's"? Honestly, you sound like a sound minded person, no disrespect there with what I said...it's just that, how do feel you are really going to change a girl set in her ways...the only thing that will come of this is that she will become far more sneakier...that's all.

For one, you already don't trust her, but you want a relationship with her or at least try to create one?

You don't need this drama, you got her, you banged her...let her go...it's not worth the effort! Abundance mindset!!!
Author:  kaDak8 [ Tue May 31, 2011 12:02 am ]
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Thanks for all the helpful and honest comments!

UPDATE: "taming the beast" has been going relitively ok, we've been a couple for about a month now. She put pictures of us on facebook, she is totally jealous of my ex, and she is getting more and more open. I haven't found any evidence about her cheating on me (even though I read her facebook messages). However there were 3 situtations that I would really appriciate to hear your comments n tips about.

#1 Two weeks ago my gf, me and 2 of my best friends went out drinking. I intorduced them to each other. We were having beers and then my gf decided to change seats and she sat away from me without saying a word right next to my buddy (who is quite handsome btw) and started not giving a shit about me. She also touched him on the hand and hugged him several times etc. Than we went to a bar but the same behavior went on but now with my other buddy too. She was also chatting with random guys there. So I gave her a freezout, me and my friends left her alone for 10 minutes. When I got back to her she was almost crying, she said it was the worst night of her life, so we went home (she came home to my place). I told her that she should pay less attention to other guys and more attention to me. She didn't understad. She kept saying that she was just making friends, and it's her personality. Any idea about handling situations like this?

#2 I know it is fuckin AFC, but yesterday I gave her a necklace she always wanted (nothing expensive tho, worth $15). Her response: said "thanks a lot" and put it on her neck. No sex that night though. Than no sex this morning. Wow.. Now tonight she asked me if I would be online for chatting, I said that I would be at 10, but than she went to sleep. WTF... What should I do tomorrow? She said that she would come over after work... but I don't think she will... Any tips for tomorrow?

#3 I told her in the beginning not to talk to her ex bf-s, but she secretly does. I saw the conversations on fb but she does not know that. Obviously I can't say that I read her fb.
Author:  Wal [ Tue May 31, 2011 1:15 pm ]
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The first two situations are a result of you being insecure.
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#1 ...She kept saying that she was just making friends, and it's her personality. Any idea about handling situations like this?
This is could be absolutely true. The problem is, now you've taken a very positive personality trait of hers (the ability to make friends quickly) and put a "bad" stamp on it. You've associated her extroverted behavior with emotional punishment from you, when in all likelihood this was one of the traits you liked most about her when you first met. You have to stop punishing her with freeze-outs. If you have a problem, be man enough to address it the right way until you can overcome these insecurities.

One alternative would have been to go over to her and make friends with the guys she was talking to. That sounds a lot more fun than freezing her out and making her really upset.


#2 is all in your head.

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#3 I told her in the beginning not to talk to her ex bf-s, but she secretly does. I saw the conversations on fb but she does not know that. Obviously I can't say that I read her fb.
If you know that she is still talking with exes, and you explicitly told her that wasn't okay with you, you need to find some way to bring it up or end the relationship. If you can't admit to finding her Facebook page and noticing that she is "breaking the rules," then dump her and find a girl you can trust.

(That said, I don't think Facebook chatting has to be a real problem... but, if you know your girlfriend is breaking your rules and you do nothing about it, it will consume you, and you might end up a very paranoid and very unhappy person... and eventually, a very single person!)
Author:  Apocalyptica [ Tue May 31, 2011 2:06 pm ]
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Are you enjoying your lovely relationship?

Really?


Re-read your first post, and highlight all the red-flags in there. It's full of them. Throughout the whole tread.

You literally said she is lying. LYING.

You want to have a relationship with a girl like that?

Insecureness, imaturity, lying, ex-es, etc.. all the stuff you DO NOT WANT in a relationship.

Gaming a chick and fucking her is 1 thing. A serious relationship is another thing. And if for u this relationship isn't meant to be "serious" than u shouldn't be posting stuff here being the result of your insecureness.

So my advice is: don't have a relationship with this kind of imature girls.

I know its hard and you don't want to read it, but its the truth. I had the same experience like you: going mad for a girl that all day long was seeking validation through the attention of other guys. My life was miserable. Check my posts here and how stupid asshole i was. It ended anyway, and i'm happy again, found a nice girl who really cares for me.

I'm sorry
Author:  P1nkstar [ Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:51 am ]
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Study on how to let her squirt/full body orgasms. Give her best sex she ever had. Don't contact her for couple days.
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