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Author:  Apocalyptica [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Is it so WRONG?
... To contact my ex-GF once again with a letter, stating why the hell she didn't want to continue?

Never she told me honestly what was wrong.. in the first weeks everything went great, then all of a sudden, after only couple of weeks, when we more or less "settled" and "committed", it all went down (one-way street and few attraction, not even sex anymore)

I just want to KNOW, so i can learn. But she doesn't talk much.. When you break-up, she could at least do the EFFORT to COMMUNICATE about it. I tried, we had only 1 more or less "conversation".. on SPAM..

She acts as she doesn't give a fuck. We did 2 months everything together, trips, etc. everyday. From one day to the other, nothing anymore. She was so cold, so without emotions.. it FREIGHTEND me. Could she really care SO FEW for me ? That's what i want to ask. (note; i know she has that personallity, sometimes it turned out she DID care when she didn't show her emotions)
It hurts me still, and i'm thinking why? what did i wrong?

I never suffered so hard from any girl. I knew her only 2 months, but because of lack of communication i'm suffering every day. I just don't know nothing.

I would just like to say to here also what i didn't liked about her, so she can take conclusions for her future life. Should i do it?



Trying to recover from it...And of course, one writes this with this little hope she will come back...

I'm not in touch with her anymore apart from this e-mail i might write, but i would like to get in touch. But i know i better don't

thanks..
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:09 pm ]
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Stop hoping he'd come back.

Apocalyptica,I thought you were wiser than this.

I even wrote a post on this issue of we men jumping into LTR's pre-fucking maturely-or getting suckered into it!

Only 2 months you'd known this chicc!

You need the hard truth.

You cannot know anyone in just 2 months!

Whe 1st. meeting someone,you're essentially meeting a representative of their true self.

Everyone tries to put up a front and a good 1st impression.

So you didnt truely know this girl,so you end up getting screwed.

You screwed your own self.

As a man,or student of PU,you should've been more cautious as to feel out the process.

Womens' main goal is to capture you tame you via LTR,then leave you as they become bored of your AFC/too-nice ways.

I know 'cause Im currently going through the same BS with my MILF gf of 2 years.

She had broken up with me last week,I took it hard so I went out and partied my ass off at local bars and flirted with women.

I posted my adventures on facebook,she see it(that I dont give a shit-eventhough I did).

Rather than wait for her to re-connect,I contact her 1st.again saying lets meet up(go out).

I mentioned nothing of "getting back together".

But in my mind,I knew she would want to get back together after seing me mingling,singling and being a roccstar when we went out.

That's exactly what I did and it effected her.

We had sex at the end of the night and we're officially bacc in the LTR after about 1 & half day of a break up(lol).

If I'd went crying to her,texting her with all the sobery BS,she would not get back with me.

The fact that I went bar hopping,enjoyed it,met women,posted it on fb,then text a called her about us going out as friends,tha sought of nonchalant act made her insecure.

Thats what you should be doing and not fucking whining bro'!

In order to get her back,you have to make her jealous,regret,see you with other chiccs,see you flirting,hear ppl talking about you(common friends),etc.

But being bogged down wont fucking help!

I made my MILF gf see that she isnt the only woman in the world because before she broke up with me,she had the impression that I'd never game other girls.

This' a sly -trick I came up with on my own(seriously).

99% of my knowledge come from dating coaches,but this little trick I originated years ago and it never failed me.

Send her a txt which wasnt intended for her.

I text my MILF gf's phone the next day(after she'd broken up with me)saying,"Karen,Im looking forward to nice time at the bar.We're gonna have friggin' fun)".

That supposed- wrong text to some made-up name(Karen)made by ex- furious & jealous.

She didnt have the right to be since she'd dumped me.

I only fund out that it effected her when we got bacc together almost 2 days after.

She asked me,"Who's Karen"?

I played as though I didnt know I purposely sent her that msg.

Me:"How do you know about Karen"?

She showed me the txt and confessed that she felt like killing me that I had the nerve to hook u with some other chicc.

Thats' how you get an ex-back rapidly.

After time passed,it may have less effect,so the sooner you act and be friggin' free(or pretend to be),the stronger she will feel hurt and regret leaving you.

The key is to not tell her that you've laid another girl,then he might say,"we've only broken up few days and you're sleeeping around"

So just let her imagination kill her.Let her think you're laying other chicc.

From the fake text about a fake girl name Karen,that had her believing I was laying Karen.

So stop F'ing whining man and get out in the field.
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:23 pm ]
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P.S.If you do manage to salvage your relationship(which I think you should move on honestly),dont make her get comfortable!

Right now since we've gotten back together about a week now,I have my gf walking on proverbial- egg shells.

Im not gonna allow her to get too relaxed and start taking me for granted again!

So Im actually going clubbing,bars ften now.

Which I'd virtually stopped doing since I met her.

I've stopped going out with my buddies since I met her-another major mistake!

I went out with my buddies Friday night,had a blast.

My gf didnt like the idea as she though I would cheat.

She text & called me 8 times while I was at bar/club Friday night with buddies,wondering what I was doing and reminding me to be good.

Im in control now!!

Prior to her breaking up with me,I was a tamed pussy,devoted to her,total nice guy,althoug I knew this was counter to he commnity's rules.

She'd broken up becaue I was tamed and deemed harmless.

Now that we're bck together,Im potraying the rebel she 1st met,liked,fell in love with.

Im going out constantly now with buddies who I'd virtually abandonned for her.

She's feeling uneasy and on stalker mode.

She's submissive now,opposed to the big-bad woman who'd dumped me days earlier.
Author:  Apocalyptica [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:04 pm ]
Post subject: 
k-loc,

you are right, i know;

but actually she already KNOWS i am CRAZY about her. After we breaking up she said not much, but this she said:

"i like to spend time with you; i like to have normal relationships with you, but not being together; just be friends"

I WONDER if they say this, there is possibility of they coming back? don't think so


all the talking after break up i did; there was ALOT of DRAMA; doors slamming, power games to see which one of us is so nice to break up in the most coolest way etc (i've won this by the way)

she didn't said a lot, she never really tried to start conversation, never said something like i'm sorry, or whatever

now she's in her homecountry, me too; beginning of january we go back to life in the same city.

i'll just ignore her for now, but i don't think she will EVER contact me again. Although she has few friends in the town we life together; only some afc's who want to get in her pants


the week after break up her wall on facebook is already full of afc dudes saying "heyyy!!!!!" after they added her; she's the kind of flirty GF, insecure and seeking attention.
Author:  Apocalyptica [ Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:06 pm ]
Post subject: 
for the message trick:


as she knows im crazy of her, she would KNOW i'm doing this trick, she's smart enough. i won't do it. would be blowing up stuff even more, but on different girls could work

what i do:
make a bunch of fake facebook girl profiles and let them (so you) write on your wall. in addition to others ofcourse
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:53 am ]
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Lol,nice facebook trick;Im gonna have to do that one day.

Well Apocalyptica,I dont know what I can do or say to help.

You're saying that she will never come back yet you're winning about her or getting her back.

Then what the hell do you want,to move on?

I do think best bet is to forget about this chicc but I know it's easier said than done.
Author:  Roz [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:09 pm ]
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I don't have time to write an elaborate response, but someone is probably going to lock this post for being in the wrong section, so let me just tell you this:

DO NOT CONTACT HER, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY. If you ever, ever! want to get this girl back, you need to show her that you've moved on. Don't call her, don't initiate any contact with her what-so-ever. You will NOT convince her to want you back.

The way to get the girl back after she dumped you is to say "ok", and to LEAVE HER THE HELL ALONE.



-Roz
Author:  Ben Millstone [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:58 pm ]
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[quote="Roz"]The way to get the girl back after she dumped you is to say "ok", and to LEAVE HER THE HELL ALONE.


I agree. She has to believe that the breakup has no effect on you, and that you've already moved on.
Author:  Apocalyptica [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:32 pm ]
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Actually i'm really bad.

Sometimes i'm crying like a child.

I lost my closest cousin
My sister lost her baby just now.

Once i telled her my sis was bad, she never asked later "how is your sis doing?"

Only misery. She doesn't like give a shit. It's not attractive, but i feel so hard the urge to tell her how FUCKING BAD i am. Maybe she will realize what respectless she is.
should i tell her?
Author:  PUA Kenny [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:32 pm ]
Post subject: 
I done here.

Apocalyptica really doesnt get it after good advise from others;especially a female[Roz].

I resign.
Author:  Apocalyptica [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:40 pm ]
Post subject: 
I do get it.

I just want to make her feel bad, actually.

But you are right: all is said here.
Author:  camus154 [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:50 pm ]
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No, obviously you don't get it. You've been asking the same question and getting the same advice for some time now throughout multiple threads.

Frankly, I don't blame her for not wanting to be with you. You seem borderline obsessive with her and utterly unable to move on or let this girl go.

You're not really interested in learning anything from the breakup, you just seem concerned with getting "revenge" and, I suspect, in desperately trying to maintain some form of contact with her, regardless of what that contact may be.

I'm honestly not trying to be a total prick here, but you're not being honest with yourself or the forum when you keep asking if you should contact this girl again under the pretense of wanting to learn the why's and how's of things.

It's understandable that you're hurting, struggling with letting her go, and a part of you wants to hurt her in return. But to keep trying to find some angle in which you can do that is most certainly NOT healthy.

The only sane thing you can do and still walk away from this retaining some amount of dignity is to let her go. No contact, no rehashing, no revenge. Just let her go.
Author:  Apocalyptica [ Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:54 pm ]
Post subject: 
camus: you are right i know

after the break up i didn't contact her one week. Than i came back to talk (we did not do before). there were about 2/3 days of contacting me her to know more (she is so closed and never talks).

now again i didn't contact her anymore, and i won't do it eather.

One thing more: SHE was the one that said to remain friends (her words: "and not only saying that, but really doing it"), but i've not heard her since.

thanks for all advice
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