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Author:  crimsonred [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:31 am ]
Post subject:  virgin

hey, so I have been with my girlfriend for about 6 weeks now, and we had a talk today, and I let her know that I want to have sex. she says she wants to too, but doesnt know how long it will take her to want to do it. she is a virgin.
winter is settling in... how should I handle this? I want to get down asap. this is like a LMR?

Author:  Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:47 pm ]
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First off, having a serious talk about sex is generally a shitty idea, because it puts pressure on the girl and makes it into this BIG DECISION which is bad. The way to make a girl want to have sex with you is to use push-pull correctly. My post in this thread may help you

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You have to make sure that you're also doing comfort properly so she trusts you.

The first time is a big deal in a girl's mind. They often have very high expectations about this perfect, idyllic experience with their dream guy, and more often than not it's a disappointment for them. If you can build up the sexual tension correctly, and then use dirty talk to make her feel sexy and wanted by you, then this will help her relax and get her into the right mood (TELL HER how great she smells, how hot she makes you, how much you want to be inside her, etc. women WANT to know they're wanted by you). Then you just have to start out nice and slow with 15-20 minutes of good foreplay, get her to orgasm clitorally first to loosen her up, and then start with just one finger and manipulate the g-spot, then two fingers, and then if it doesn't hurt too much enter her slowly and build up pace gradually so she's comfortable. It will often hurt the first time, so be warned and don't push too hard if she says it's uncomfortable.

Author:  Hawkin [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:04 pm ]
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You might want to read my post:
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It's exactly what I would write here too.

I have read it several times and experienced it two times on my own.

If a girl says she is not ready for the first sex with a new boyfriend (no matter virgin or not), this means one of these:
  • She is on her period and is ashamed to do the bloody ride yet because you two don't know each other good enough. (Should be not your case because you know her for longer than a week)
  • You are already stamped as "not good enough for her". Means she doesn't see a future for you and her. The most common case. Get ready for breaking up. If you don't do it soon enough, she will do it and might hurt you alot.
  • She has serious mental issues.
  • She has issues with her body. (If you have seen her naked and she has no problem with it, then this is not your case)
  • You haven't tried it good enough to have sex with her. Hence it is a test.
I want to go into detail in the last point.

Sometimes or most often you need to force your new girl into the situation of sex. If you haven't done it yet, you need to do it. Most men do it, when they are alone with their girl in bed or before sleeping together, etc.

With that action, the girl is put into the situation, where she can decide what to do. Either she will give you physical LMR, or she will let you do it, or she will give you, let's call it mental LMR.

Read about freeze outs and how to deal with physical LMR, then you can successfully pass her test and have sex.

If she let's you do it without anything, then congratulations ;) Maybe you just were scared away by her words alone and did not even try to have sex with her. Notice, in such a case her words were also just a test.

Mental LMR is a test, where she tells "no, no" or something similar all the time, but doesn't do anything physically against it. In that case, just go on and don't listen to her. She wants to be the weak one and she wants to be dominated in the attempt to sex. As long as she doesn't resist physically, she enjoys this situation fully. If she resists only a little physically, like her hands in front of her pussy, but just as a slight test, so that you can take them away without force, do it and become more aggressive. It's a sign that she wants it more rough. For more physical LMR -> freeze out!
Edit after I read blondguys post: This does not mean more aggressive with your dick inside her, but more rough until the point of penetration. Of course during penetration be careful and look at her body language and face expression how she feels it. If you can't tell, ask her how she feels.

As for mental testing: Don't screw it up!
If she tells "I am not ready for sex", DON'T tell "What do you mean?", "But why?", "Let's just try it", "Come on, I will be gentle". You tell "Okay", smile and continue doing what you were doing. You can tell "I will be gentle" when your fingers or your dick glimpse into her vagina, not earlier.
Also don't ask her why she thinks she is not ready. You can do that, if it turns out she really has mental issues for example. As long as it is a test, go along with it.

If she tells "We shouldn't do that", "We must stop" or "It's not right", DON'T tell "Don't worry it's okay" or "Why not?". You tell "You are right. We must stop" and continue doing the erotic things you two were doing.

There are for sure many more examples where you must turn off your logic and answer correctly to pass the test.

Author:  MarcusRobertson [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:31 pm ]
Post subject:  tough

tough situation please keep us updated

Author:  crimsonred [ Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:08 am ]
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UPDATE: Day2
kk, so what blondguy said made sense to me so i did something about it.

i was over at her dorm today (which is just down the hall haha) and things were starting to heat up in her bed but we were all clothed. however, it seemed like she wasnt enjoying it much... so i asked her whats on her mind and she said "sex.. the elephant in the room." we talked for a few mins and basically she said she wants to make me happy, and that i want sex. she says shes not ready as of yet but she does not want to make me unhappy.
so i decided to take your advice, and try to reverse yesterday's effects and use it to my advantage. i decided to tell her that i didnt want her to feel guilty like she does now, and not to worry about sex for now.. we can do everything else. i dont want to pressure you into anything you dont want to do.
after that, she sincerely said that she wants me to be her first...

now, my assumption here is that everytime we play around, she worries about me trying to have sex with her, even if i am her boyfriend. now, since i said we dont have to do it until shes ready, she feels safe with me, and willing to do more things with me.\

after this convo, she started taking stripping and soon, i was fingering her. another thing i noticed is that after that convo, she definately threw herself at me a lot more than before, and also was a lot more into the mood than before. after a while, i was fingering her, and for the first time since weve been together, she started moaning, and became a lot more touchy, started talking dirty, and even gave sexual suggestions like deeper, faster, and shit like that.

then her room mate came haha and i finished her in like the next 30 mins. now, tomorrow night is MY night. where basically i tell her how to make me happy and she does it.

now, i have the Largest dorm room in all of univ of michigan. its fucking massive. (i share it with 3 roommates who are all out of town for Thanksgfivving tomorrow evening) i have a futon and huge speakers and large flatscreen tv and lots of room and bed and red velvetty curtains and mood lights all over.

and here is my next question:
previously, when we mess around, its usually just me playing with her tits and fingering her. then she gives me head.
Anyone with experience, how can i make things more interesting?

Author:  Hawkin [ Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:29 pm ]
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I'm glad that for you things go well!

When I told to the same to a virgin, in her mind I was labeled as a total pussy I guess. (All the "it's okay that you are not ready", "sex is not so important now" talk)
Quote:
Anyone with experience, how can i make things more interesting?
If you make that more concrete. What do you want to accomplish?

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