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| Author: | Taffy [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:50 pm ] |
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Debate... |
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| Author: | Roz [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:24 pm ] |
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I personally think fidelity for men is cultural, not natural... and I honestly believe that if a man is given the opportunity to have sex with an attractive female, with no fear of getting caught and little risk of STD, he will do so. Always. -Roz |
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| Author: | LyricalDream [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:03 am ] |
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Quote: I personally think fidelity for men is cultural, not natural... and I honestly believe that if a man is given the opportunity to have sex with an attractive female, with no fear of getting caught and little risk of STD, he will do so. Always.
To be honest, I think you're givin us a lot of miscredit here. A guy can be emotional attached too. If in a relationship, I for one, am not going to cheat. I've been and always will be faithful to the girl that I'm with.. maybe that's me, but don't go saying always, because of the fact that most of the guys do so.-Roz My last girlfriend went cheating on me, and to be honest, if a girl starts drinking ... Imo, they are the ones who have a higher chance of going with a stranger to his place then a guy. Purely look at the fact, a girl most of the time gets tons of offers to go have sex. She can have more guys than the guy could. Statisticly speaking: The girl being the most desirable + influenced by other factors, she'll faster make a run for it than the guy. Who frankly said is more insecure about himself, thusfor not having to risk anything that he already got. Just my opinion. - LD. |
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| Author: | fenixz [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:43 am ] |
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Quote: Quote: I personally think fidelity for men is cultural, not natural... and I honestly believe that if a man is given the opportunity to have sex with an attractive female, with no fear of getting caught and little risk of STD, he will do so. Always.
To be honest, I think you're givin us a lot of miscredit here. A guy can be emotional attached too. If in a relationship, I for one, am not going to cheat. I've been and always will be faithful to the girl that I'm with.. maybe that's me, but don't go saying always, because of the fact that most of the guys do so.-Roz My last girlfriend went cheating on me, and to be honest, if a girl starts drinking ... Imo, they are the ones who have a higher chance of going with a stranger to his place then a guy. Purely look at the fact, a girl most of the time gets tons of offers to go have sex. She can have more guys than the guy could. Statisticly speaking: The girl being the most desirable + influenced by other factors, she'll faster make a run for it than the guy. Who frankly said is more insecure about himself, thusfor not having to risk anything that he already got. Just my opinion. - LD. |
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| Author: | Roz [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:23 am ] |
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Quote: A guy can be emotional attached too.
Well of course he can! But men don't need to love, like, or even know a woman to have sex with her. I think a man can be in love with his girlfriend/wife yet still be unfaithful to her, and think nothing of it. Quote: If in a relationship, I for one, am not going to cheat.
Well great! And you probably won't even feel the urge to, if the relationship is new and exciting, and you're getting laid every day. But the fact is once your chosen lady starts getting "headaches", you'll be left with an erection and a million fantasies in your head. After a day of no sex, you start craving, right? That's because you've entered an "unloaded" stage, and what's more- women will actually start looking more appealing to you. I mean lets look at the male anatomy for starters: 1. Erection = penis must fill up with blood. 2. Where does the blood come from? Law of gravity- it comes from the brain. 3. Less blood in the brain = reduces your capacity to think, power of conscience, faculties of discrimination.. etc! Quote: Purely look at the fact, a girl most of the time gets tons of offers to go have sex. She can have more guys than the guy could. Statisticly speaking: The girl being the most desirable + influenced by other factors, she'll faster make a run for it than the guy.
A woman is walking down the street. An extremely attractive man in a very expensive Armani suit stops her, and says "I want to perform oral sex on you, bring you to a fantastic orgasm, and then never see you again."Who frankly said is more insecure about himself, thusfor not having to risk anything that he already got. 99% of women will either (i) slap him, (ii) scream, (iii) run away, and then attend extensive therapy sessions and probably never fully recover. A man is walking down the street, thinking about his wife. An extremely attractive HB10 wearing a leather mini skirt stops him and says "I want to perform oral sex on you, bring you to a fantastic orgasm, and then never see you again." 99% of men will run with her to the nearest alley. (The other 1% refuse- they think they're on Candid Camera). It all comes down to basic biology: Women are programed to be more selective then men- it's called natural selection in mating. A woman can only reproduce once every 9 months, whereas a man can impregnate hundreds of women in the same time frame. Barabing- baraboom! Sure we are now more advanced, have numerous forms of contraceptives etc. but a female mind still harbors the same instinct; this very forum is a perfect example of it- it's you men that have to pick us up, and distinguish yourselves from 1000 others. Quote: My last girlfriend went cheating on me
This is the reason I agree with the double standard. I don't think it's natural for a woman to need to be with more than one man at a time- but women do it anyway because hey, it's only fair! The thing is it's a man's basic nature to crave sexual variety, not a woman's. Quote: To be honest, I think you're givin us a lot of miscredit here.
I'm really not saying any of this with spite... I think men are capable of great love and compassion, of honesty, heroism, etc. but I just don't think they are capable or fidelity, because it's just not in their nature... and that's okay! Unfortunately for you guys, society has raised women to believe that cheating is unacceptable- even I will cannot stand to be with a man if I find out he's unfaithful. Why? Because I've been fed to many Disney movies, taught to not tolerate it, and my pride just won't let me. At the end of the day, what she doesn't know won't hurt her. No woman wants to know her man is cheating- she thinks she does, but she doesn't. I'm not even gonna try to look for a man that will never cheat- because I know I won't find one. I just want a man that's smart enough not to get caught -Roz |
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| Author: | BrianTampa [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:13 am ] |
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they call it cheating because it is breaking the rules. Its wrong by definition. However we all know it happens all the time. I think the more important debate is what do you do if you find out your partner is cheating. In the case of cheating men, I think most of the time the women should dump them, but sometimes not. It depends how much benefit the woman is getting from the relationship and the circumstances of the cheating. As has been said before, men can be seduced by a piece of ass. That doesn't make it right, but its true. In the case of cheating women, I think the men should always move on. This may be a double standard, but its because of the differences between the sexes. Women cheat for different reasons. When a woman cheats, she is usually looking for a trade up, or just an escape from a relationship she is no longer satisfied with. Its not just a piece, even if they say it is. |
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| Author: | Ryan Black SashaPUA [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:59 pm ] |
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Why oh why do men get themselves in this pointless situation? Roz is right, most men will jump at the opportunity to fuck another woman if given the chance. Why go around apologising for yourself and lying and shit? "Hey babe, listen. I just want to say that I think we have a fucking great time together and I really enjoy spending time with you. Before we keep going, I just want to say that I'm open to commitment in the future, but it's not what I'm looking for right now. I think we should just enjoy this for what it is when we see each other, and not worry about what either of us does separately. That way, nobody gets hurt. If you can't deal with that, then you should probably walk away now. If that's cool with you, then let's keep going." Start every relationship as an OPEN relationship, and you NEVER have to lie or cheat again! Plus your value is always higher in her eyes, and she's always working to convince you that you should be with only her - i.e. doing what you tell her and not starting pointless shitty arguments in case you walk away. |
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| Author: | Taffy [ Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:41 pm ] |
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I agree ith the above. Fucking good post blondie =] |
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| Author: | dudenourl [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:25 am ] |
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i think its all about the situation what makes a person "faithful" is to make sure that they are never in a situation where they are truly allowed to cheat |
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| Author: | Little Panda [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:51 pm ] |
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Quote: Why oh why do men get themselves in this pointless situation?
I would agree with you if Roz phrased it the way you just did. But that's not the case, she was purely generalizing.
Roz is right, most men will jump at the opportunity to fuck another woman if given the chance. Why go around apologising for yourself and lying and shit? Quote: I personally think fidelity for men is cultural, not natural... and I honestly believe that if a man is given the opportunity to have sex with an attractive female, with no fear of getting caught and little risk of STD, he will do so. Always.
Roz, I've had the chance to have sex with an attractive, non-infected female with ZERO chance of ever getting caught. -Roz Guess what? I didn't do it, even though I wasn't even being official with the girl I was seeing at that point. It's too bad you feel that way about all men. |
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| Author: | P1nkstar [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:39 pm ] |
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Never in my opinion.... You shouldn't start a relationship when you are not capeable of not cheating.... then you should start like blondguy stated an open relationship... if you can't handle the tought of her cheating, you shouldn't do either, balance and trust! What Roz stated, from an evolutionary point of view, you are 100% correct, men need to spray there sperm and implant as many eggs as possible... but in modern society i think, you should be able to keep ur composure and be a real man, hurting the one you love is not being a real man! |
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| Author: | poet1234 [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:34 pm ] |
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I don't know how correct is what your wrote from a biological point of view(it doesn't look that accurate), i could go on and debate it .However... I don't see the point in all this.You are debating over nothing,concluding nothing and maybe installing a sick mindset. When I go out I assume nobody is judgemental,even if in reality most people are.What if I went out and say : from a biological point of view,humans have always judged.If you look at a few roman movies,you got the proof.Right,and now I try to fit in everybody's standards. When I assume others don't judge me : 1)I won't judge myself or other people 2)Others will know what I expect from them Same for cheating.I don't know what biology says,but I assume a girl won't cheat on me.If I accept the thought of being cheated upon,that's even worse cause then I'll cheat myself.The people that write here and agree with that- maybe they've never seen a fulfilling 20 year relationship that still keeps attraction going,so they talk shit.Many people hardly have time to invest in a single LTR,because they are too busy with job,family,projects,hobby.There are also people who are happy with themselves and non needy,some need to be attached emotionally to a girl before they fuck her. Quote: I'm not even gonna try to look for a man that will never cheat- because I know I won't find one. I just want a man that's smart enough not to get caught
Why not expect the best in people ?What is this bullshit in the first place ? Did I come on this forum to adopt a better mindset or to become even more sad ?
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| Author: | Durden [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:21 pm ] |
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For my part, if you're in love, it is not acceptable. If you're commited in a relationship you have to assume it, and not watch out. A concrete exmple : one night, I was out with friends, and a girl came to me, paid me some cocktails, asked me for dancing ... Just for information, I was in couple. While dancing, she beginns touching my body, went down, touching my ass, and then my dick. You know in your mind it is : "fuck, what should I do ? My girl wouldn't know if something happened...", and then you tell yourself : "I am good with her, I'm in love ! Fuck, I won't do that shit". Finally, I told her (the girl in the club) to go, that I don't want her. In the moment, I was not very happy, but the day after, I didn't regret it at all ! Guys , if you're in love with your girl, don't do something stupid, you would probably regret it after ! |
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| Author: | Ausnat [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:41 am ] |
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Quote: I personally think fidelity for men is cultural, not natural... and I honestly believe that if a man is given the opportunity to have sex with an attractive female, with no fear of getting caught and little risk of STD, he will do so. Always.
quoted for stupidity
-Roz |
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| Author: | Bedrock [ Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:42 pm ] |
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Real men don't cheat. Plain and simple. |
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