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| Author: | Alpha_Man [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 4:32 pm ] |
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Interesting point of view. I must say that I understand perfectly what you said and I admire your point of view. The idea is that happiness comes from inside of you, not from a girl. This is the best attitude someone can have, but it's not that easy to have it. |
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| Author: | ktime70 [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:26 am ] |
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If you are truely happy with that point of view, then kudos for you. BUT i have to wonder why, if this is truely "YOU" and your truely happy, why your seeking affimation from a group of guys on the net that you see as "below" you. and what led you to the forum? my guess is you are trying to break the dry spell? because this isn't the most obvious place to get serious discussion on the merits of being Asexual. Pick up, true pick up, isn't about "being someone your not", it's about conveying the best person you ARE. sure you may not really have two pugs needing to be named after 80's glam rock bands, BUT those are tools, crutches, for getting into the right mindset of HOW to project yourself in the best light. true PU comes from internalising the lessons, and projecting perfect personality. You are right that there is extreme social (and personal) pressure on everyone to be either "pair bonded" or "boning a large number of chicks". and your right in that you can be at your happiest when not relying on the satisfaction of fitting one of those descriptions. But, coming from a Virulent young man, are you claiming that at no point in the last year, you've felt like you'd enjoy sex with a woman, purely for the physical joy it brings? the sensual pleasures if you will. if you haven't had that yearning (and it does happen), then cool. it's not biologically congruent, but there are plenty of people out there with naturally low/no sex drive. again tho, i have to wonder why someone naturally like that is on a PUA forum. so short and the sweet of it. yeah, you don't need to take your self worth from women, either dating, as friends, or fucking. but if your cool with that, what are you asking of us? a different point of view? I like sex. I like experiencing that sweaty, animalistic lust, and sating it with an equally experimental, yearning female. much like you may have a desire to surf, snowboard, build a hotrod, or play tennis. I don't take my self worth from the fact i sleep with the women. i get physical pleasure from it. that's my point of view. |
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| Author: | Alpha_Man [ Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:43 am ] |
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I just said that I admire this attitude. But is it really possible to think like this? I mean you can't be fully happy without knowing that someone loves you or cares about you. Or you can't be fully satisfied sexually, without having sex. And it is a normal thing to be satisfied sexually. I heard a girl saying that she will never love a boy, because she will sooner or later be disappointed by that person. So she told me that she will only love her passions, because her passions will never disappoint her. Let me tell you that I don't believe her. |
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| Author: | returner217 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:23 pm ] |
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I appreciate anyone who is steady in his outlook but I like search for gaps. You are opposing having 'wide mind frame without sex' against 'narrow frame with sex'. Just as it would not be possible to have 'wide frame with sex'. Myself I'd say 'wide mind frame WITH sex' is better than 'wide mind frame WITHOUT sex'. You connect to other human being, one who is rich in emotions which men usually lack. --- |
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| Author: | Chelios [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:21 pm ] |
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Quote: alright so the last time i had intercourse with a girl was well over a year ago. but i'm here, not to complain, but to talk about why this circumstance isn't so bad.
Respect and kudos to your views, I'm in a similar frame of mind, I'm 21, 22 soon, and to be honest, I don't even want a gf at the moment, and not having a gf has made me realise many positive things.i think a lot of the time we're under the impression that if we don't have a steady GF, or are fucking someone, that something is going wrong. For me though, that's bullshit. I can say with confidence, that I am doing the best i ever have, and yet I have not touched a girl in a long time. maybe someone older can give me some enlightenment, i mean, i'm 22, and I'm at the point where I just am not going to lower myself to get with a girl. in other words, not to dis PUA tactics or anything trust me, i'm not going to act like anything but myself. I'm confident with who i am, and i feel no reason to change that up so I can hook up with some biddy. and i do talk to girls openly, just as openly as with my bros. and Idk, i'm at the point where I'm going to be myself around girls, and not try to impress them or get anything from them; i'm sure this makes sense to someone. and i'm sure someone can offer me a different p.o.v...not the porno POV!! for all you sickos out there about to send me some GAY links! Having a girl is good, someone to speak with as an alternative to friends and family, sex, company etc. I got into PUA after I split from my LTR, and it has benefited me, not by getting women, which I can definitely get more women now, but it's opened up a whole new path, and ways I see things. It's important for people to be natural, it's all about creating a good image, or building upon your current one and being better off for yourself in every aspect. Chel |
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| Author: | Conker [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:52 pm ] |
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Okay well, Cranberry it's great you've realised you've become a better person and don't want to go back. But that wasn't the reason for you first post. Quote: alright so the last time i had intercourse with a girl was well over a year ago. but i'm here, not to complain, but to talk about why this circumstance isn't so bad.
This part is fair enough. You're posting to tell yourself that you feel better about where you're at, and maybe you're looking for outside opinion to help you feel validated about this.i think a lot of the time we're under the impression that if we don't have a steady GF, or are fucking someone, that something is going wrong. For me though, that's bullshit. I can say with confidence, that I am doing the best i ever have, and yet I have not touched a girl in a long time. Quote: maybe someone older can give me some enlightenment, i mean, i'm 22, and I'm at the point where I just am not going to lower myself to get with a girl. in other words, not to dis PUA tactics or anything trust me, i'm not going to act like anything but myself. I'm confident with who i am, and i feel no reason to change that up so I can hook up with some biddy.
Here you talk like you COULD have had sex, if you employed some cheap tricks. When the reality is, you're not sure if those same cheap tricks would work for you. So it's better to act like you're "above" it. The last line about sicko's sending you gay links is a bit over the top, but I get the hint - you're trying to step above it. This is an emotionally driven line. There's a lot of emotion tied to this issue, of course there is - it would be mortifying to see some cheap tricks work for someone, and not you. What would be so defective about you if the cheap tricks didn't work for you?and i do talk to girls openly, just as openly as with my bros. and Idk, i'm at the point where I'm going to be myself around girls, and not try to impress them or get anything from them; i'm sure this makes sense to someone. and i'm sure someone can offer me a different p.o.v...not the porno POV!! for all you sickos out there about to send me some GAY links! The cheap tricks don't work by themselves, and you're secretly looking for the answer. What makes the difference, why does it work for someone and not someone else. No cheap trick has ever worked for anyone - the only thing that matters is attraction, and the things that generate attraction cannot be faked - they must be practiced, all the time. This doesn't mean changing yourself - it means improving yourself. You still have the same body but you can build muscle and become sexy and ripped. Same thing with your mind. I'd wager that although you're very positive now, you're wondering why you're not getting sex. And I'd venture that if you talk to girls the same way you talk to your brothers, you're coming across as a friend and not a sexual being. This says to me that you need to work on your sexual side. Girls have to feel sexual when you interact with them, otherwise they'll never want to enter a romantic relationship with you or even have a one night stand. |
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| Author: | returner217 [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:32 pm ] |
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Somehow i cannot get rid of feeling that this theory in reality means excuses. You dont get close with women - you dont risk rejection, it is sooo safe position. |
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| Author: | Conker [ Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:43 pm ] |
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Take what works though. If you were actually having sex then you were moving forward at the right times. |
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