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Author:	Koffertgutten [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:21 pm ]
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Hey guys! Just thought i'd share some thoughts with you guys Alot of PUAs go around thinking that you're "high value" and that you need to dhv, neg etc.. Theese things work, yeah, But rarely in the long run, why? Because in a relationship, the point isn't to build attraction and facination, the attraction's allready there, your value has already been proven over and over, you don't really need the game to help you out, but you need to build heavy rapport, over and over. Tell her your thoughts, feelings etc. Of course, don't go AFC, but be honest, be sincere with her! Other than that, don't be needy, ever, period. A general rule is; If she doesent use her time on you, then you don't use your time on her. Anyways,- build rapport, and don't be needy. It's all that's needed to make a relationship last long(er) - Oh, and .. Don't ever fall into routines, keep things fresh, one day go to the park, one day go to a cafe, keep it varied.

Author:	Machida [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:03 pm ]
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Very true, this is something I learned the hard way. I kept up this attitude to draw girls to me and in turn pissed of my long term girl. Wise advise. That being said, keep everything interesting-she can still get bored. A little jealousy on her part doesn't hurt.

Author:	PUA Kenny [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:52 pm ]
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Couldnt agree more guys,but I disgree a bit. Im currently going throught that. But,one does need to re-seduce or re attract their partner if things are fizzling out or to prevent fizzing out. KofferTGutten,you made some great points also which should be common knowledge in the community:keep the LTR fresh,basically. But thats why I advocte having to have to re-seduce your partner. Exclude the negs,but I dont see anything wrong with exhibiting pre-selection,in order to subcommunicate to your gf that you're still wanted by other girls. Moment she feels too comfortable or bored,she'll take the guy for granted. Im currently going through that,where I stopped seducing my gf of over a year,nd I fell into the lazy pattern of,"I already got her so what the F"!!! Wrong mind set. One should always be employing things to keep his gf alive. My gf had recently discovered that I have many of facebook-female admirers. That reality alone,and the thought of me being desired by so many other women,made her some what jealous,insecure,which in turn made her pull her socks up & act accordingly. So I had to create a jealousy-plot line and challenge her in order to wake up. So guys,we cant get too lazy where we dont still challenge our gf. But then again,we shouldnt be overly trying to attract her.

Author:	Chelios [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:38 pm ]
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Good post, from experience where I have been right and gone wrong, successful relationships come from being good, bad and mysterious. Be everything, not the mug that runs to her when she clicks her fingers, but when your serious, be there for her, hold your ground, be stubborn when necessary, you have your ways, and that's principle in my eyes. She likes you for a reason, if she's in a relationship with you. So you don't need to concentrate of DHV's etc, be yourself, the guy she likes, be interesting, someone she can talk to her friends about, don't be that "dull guy"

Author:	Koffertgutten [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:40 am ]
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Thanks for the replies guys, yeah.. i see what you mean K-loc, i thought this post could be a collection of ways to keep the realtionship good, so i'll edit it soon and add your thoughts

Author:	thelenzel [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:01 pm ]
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I've been with my GF for 2 months now. And I treat her the same way. I still tease her, and I even find that when I tease her she smiles like a huge smile and demonstrates IOI's even when she's already in relationship with me. What this makes me think, is that, while the attraction is still there, you can keep creating more and more, this really separates you from the chunks hitting on her. One time we were walking down the street talking and I said "Well, lets face it, I am the best" ... which may be too cocky, but then she said "Yes you are the best I've ever had, and for me you're the best" Constantly creating attraction helps in my opinion. Another thing is... SHOW, dont SAY. Show you love her, dont say it a lot, show you care, show you get jealous sometimes (When there is enough comfort, attraction and love, this is good)

Author:	SiNfUl [ Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:25 pm ]
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In my experience, the best way to keep an LTR going is to keep her on her toes. NEVER EVER let her figure you out...completely. Til this day, I can still get my TLR to say 'really? I didn't know that about you'. This is music to my ears. Be mysterious and unpredictable. Also, learn how to send her through a series of emotions. You want her to feel happy, sad, excited, pissed off, etc. Emotions are addicting to women. Why do you think they pay so much attention to all those dumb ass dramas like Grey's Anatomy and Brothers & Sisters? In every episode, someone is crying, then someone is happy, then someone is upset. Keep her on an emotional roller coaster. And most importantly, you have to be able to rock her world in the bedroom. Become a sexual beast that can give her explosive orgasms, one after the other. You need to find out what her deepest, darkest desires are (sexually speaking) and bring them to life. Once you have done that, introduce her to new things to try.

Author:	PUA Kenny [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:08 pm ]
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Lol,great insight SINFUL,I love it! It also comes down to being unpredictable & spontaneous. If one usually calls his LTR every single morning at 8 A.M.to say "morning babes", like fuccing clock work... He should now vary the pace like a good boxer and call her at 12 noon or later,or just dont call at all that day(lol)! Those small things are key in a relationship,or just with a chicc you're gaming. Plus,making her work and sacrifice for the LTR. Example:My gf usually does me breakfast every Sunday mornings(today),and I'd collect it from her place. For the pst 2 weeks,I've been having her bring breakfast to my place instead,rather than the same routine which will kill an LTR.

Author:	PUA Kenny [ Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:55 pm ]
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P.S.Im feeling Adilinar's approach also to keeping things fresh,lie still teasing her,etc. Lot of guys(maybe 98%)fall into a routine and gt lazy after he's already gotten the girl. I recently downloaded 1 of Bobby Rio's podcast interviewing Mystery Method's dating coach Nick Savoy,he spoke about the same things. We men get all lazy where we walk around the crib in dirty boxers,looking all out of place,with a tub of ice cream in hand watching South Park with our gf's(lol). We would've never been living that way if we invited a girl over who we were just gaming. We would've been up to par with everything. Savoy also said,"A point of having a gf is to feel comfort around her where you can let yourself go at times,but most guys live like slobs around their gf most of the time..." Final point,I mustt agree with SINFUL again on incorporating drama in a relationship. We know women love soap opera. I make it a point to make my LTR semi-soap like where she doesnt get too comfortable and take me for granted. Im not advocating head games,but women do it to their gf all the time!!! So bring on the drama guys. My gf of about a year and a half has told me that she loves me,hates me,cant trust me,does trust me,wants to kick my ass,would never hurt me... I pump all those emotions into my gf. Ilve had my gf tell me that she wants out of this LTR because I at times compare her to past girlfriends and she doesnt want to be second best,but 1st. I know she doesnt mean it when she says she wants to break up over stuff... But its the emotions/roller-coaster rides you put a woman through which eventually make the thing last and keep her around. Guys get too fucking lazy and petrified to stir things up,then wonder why his gf is acting funny and ends up leaving him for an asshole or jerk and a cheater. Im not advocating cheating,but I give my gf the perception that I "MAY" cheat. The thought alone would make her act straight as she ponders the possibility of me cheating. Let her compete for you guys. Knowing that you're desired by other women will drive her nuts and copete for you more. Yes,she'll complain.But I rather my gf complains yet stays with me and give me the best blowjobs thinking that it'd keep me around[if she blows me better than any other girl could]. I'd rather that than to kill my gf with boredom,then have her bitch and complain about things,then dumps me for a guy who can mix things up. But guys,it's about timing,pace,and calibration. Knowing when to spark things up(a mini fight,which women love)and knowing when to chill the hell out. You cant give her drama every second,so chill out and be stable. Then when she gets too comfortable and start to not do her part,then spark shit up again. Im speaking from experience here. I was an AFC too who managed to get a gf,but I evntually f'd it up by being needy,clingy,having no drama,being too nice thinking that if the LTR is drama free,the girl will stay(lol). That gf of 2 months dumped me(lol)without explanation or just bogus reasons. After stumbling upon the community around 2004 by googling,"seduce women",I'd learned from reading online pick-up articles(askmen.com,becomeaplayer.com,seductiontuition.com,etc.)which taught against being a nice guy and a wuss. I then found out that my relationships never lasted 2 months because I played it safe and didnt keep her on her toes an give her the drama every women craves. Good advice for us to follow from SiINFUL,Adilinar,Chel',KoffertGutten & Machida. I like the post.

Author:	SiNfUl [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:45 pm ]
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Let her compete for you guys. Knowing that you're desired by other women will drive her nuts and copete for you mor Words to live by k-loc.

Author:	returner217 [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:45 pm ]
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sinfui. You are right, but: 1. 1-2 months LTR is nothing. let's talk about 5-10 years. 2. All of you be aware that any woman can X-ray you completely. This is like magic. My woman knew EVERYTHING what I did without asking. And not always those were things I'd put in public. 3. Woman being with you either closes her eyes for your sins because she thinks positives are over negatives or she is with you until she finds replacement. Someone sarcastically said - a woman is like monkey, she doesnt leave one branch before she catches another.

Author:	SiNfUl [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:26 pm ]
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All of you be aware that any woman can X-ray you completely. I can X-ray women just as easily. We have to make a conscious decision to be the branch she doesn't WANT to leave.

Author:	Chelios [ Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:21 pm ]
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Quote: All of you be aware that any woman can X-ray you completely. I can X-ray women just as easily. We have to make a conscious decision to be the branch she doesn't WANT to leave. X-raying a woman and letting her know about it has led me to success quite a lot, keeps them on their toes, your not needy and they want to please. If a woman can x-ray you, and your "machine" is broke and cannot do the same, I say 9/10 times, game over.

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