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Author:  Girlock [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:36 pm ]
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Straight to the point... Been dating this girl for about 6-7 weeks. I stay at her house a lot and things were going well up until a couple days ago. I always work till 10 and then go to her house after work. But the last 2 nights she's made excuses why I shouldn't come over. Well last night she just didn't answer the phone when I called but I already know what she'll say "sorry I fell asleep". So I'm getting the indication that she's either losing interest or needs space. I have 2 options. I can either freeze her out for a couple days or I can call her out first and say "I think we should slow things down a bit". Let me know If you have any advice. Thanks, Crash

Author:  trappinu [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:47 pm ]
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Straight to the point... Been dating this girl for about 6-7 weeks. I stay at her house a lot and things were going well up until a couple days ago. I always work till 10 and then go to her house after work. But the last 2 nights she's made excuses why I shouldn't come over. Well last night she just didn't answer the phone when I called but I already know what she'll say "sorry I fell asleep". So I'm getting the indication that she's either losing interest or needs space. I have 2 options. I can either freeze her out for a couple days or I can call her out first and say "I think we should slow things down a bit". Let me know If you have any advice. Thanks, Crash
go for the freeze-out dude, she may get the wrong idea if you ask to slow things down..but by slowing things down what do u really mean?

Author:  Ezo [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:51 pm ]
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Freeze out or rather. Take a step back. Give her some space, maybe it has been too intense for her. Let her miss you a bit.

Author:  trappinu [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:56 pm ]
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Freeze out or rather. Take a step back. Give her some space, maybe it has been too intense for her. Let her miss you a bit.
sorry for stealin ur thread a little bit gerlach..but what do u mean by giving her space? isnt that the same as a freeze out kinda?

Author:  Girlock [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:01 pm ]
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but by slowing things down what do u really mean?
I'm basically telling her what she's already thinking. She'll start to question herself and think if she was doing something wrong. It would give the power back to me.

Author:  Girlock [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:04 pm ]
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quote]sorry for stealin ur thread a little bit gerlach..but what do u mean by giving her space?[/quote]

It's cool I was gonna ask a question along those guidlines too.

Author:  trappinu [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:20 pm ]
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but by slowing things down what do u really mean?
I'm basically telling her what she's already thinking. She'll start to question herself and think if she was doing something wrong. It would give the power back to me.
can you give an example of what you'd say by telling her what she's already thinking? im kind of in the same position as you right now and am trying to salvage my relationship before i just cant handle the frustration anymore?

Author:  Ezo [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:14 pm ]
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sorry for stealin ur thread a little bit gerlach..but what do u mean by giving her space? isnt that the same as a freeze out kinda?
The effect is more or less the same if it is done right. The intention is different though. The difference being, in a freeze out you take the time that you think that you need and on purpose ignore her until she begs to come back or whatever timelimit you have made for yourself. That works wonders just to be honest...

If you give her space... The intention is to do it out of respect for her. You try to understand what she feels and you give her what she needs rather than thinking about what you need. The difference being that in a freezeout you tend to overdo it. Here you let her set the pace and lean back to watch her come to her senses. ;)

Author:  trappinu [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:35 pm ]
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sorry for stealin ur thread a little bit gerlach..but what do u mean by giving her space? isnt that the same as a freeze out kinda?
The effect is more or less the same if it is done right. The intention is different though. The difference being, in a freeze out you take the time that you think that you need and on purpose ignore her until she begs to come back or whatever timelimit you have made for yourself. That works wonders just to be honest...

If you give her space... The intention is to do it out of respect for her. You try to understand what she feels and you give her what she needs rather than thinking about what you need. The difference being that in a freezeout you tend to overdo it. Here you let her set the pace and lean back to watch her come to her senses. ;)
Ok, so I got it but..what can I do to freezeout my girl other than not texting or calling her?

Author:  Ezo [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:42 pm ]
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Thats about it. Freezing out is a passive action. Thats the beauty of it. I spend my freeze out times sarging other girls but thats just me. ;)

Author:  Ezo [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:42 pm ]
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In other words, you snooze you lose.

Author:  trappinu [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:48 pm ]
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Thats about it. Freezing out is a passive action. Thats the beauty of it. I spend my freeze out times sarging other girls but thats just me. ;)
fuck idk what to do then, i hardly text or call her as it is..any other suggestions for me? thanks for the help ezo

Author:  trappinu [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:51 pm ]
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Another guy taking your spot?
i highly doubt it, but theres no way i can really figure it out..my girl is really good looking but her friends are sooo fucking hot that she doesnt get attention from guys in her school..good for me i guess

Author:  TheJ [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:33 pm ]
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I copy pasted a text from Locke in word for further reference. It's gold and I think could help you quite a bit here.

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Zip wrote:
What is your advice for a woman in a LTR?

How does she keep it interesting when most of the "mystery" is gone? I know she can mix it up, switch around their sex life, make it special, etc... but how does she keep him intrigued while keeping the relationship healthy?

Also...

I recently got a facebook message form an ex of mine from early-early high school. I broke his heart in the worst way, and he cut off communication until two days ago. I wake up and BAM! he's friended me on facebook. What does that mean?

Thanks, o relationship guru.
If you are getting bored in your relationship, does that change how you feel about him? Probably not.

However, note what I posted before:
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"Basically, what that means is the more you "mix it up," the less routine there is, and the further the two of you will progress.

Too much routine and the existence of "over-comfort" will make things Hum-Drum. For a lot of people in today's society, there is already enough 'hum-drum' in their lives. They don't want any more. A lot of people who quickly find boredom in their relationships won't stick with it."
is a very true statement. If not confronted, it could possibly be the end of a relationship. A lack of interest is an extremely strong force.

There are obvious phases of a relationship; one that I have heard mentioned before is the 'honeymoon phase.' After the initial creation of the relationship, things might start to become a little more laxed. This is okay. You have gotten to know the person, the person has gotten to know you. You're in each others core. You have reached the stage of a relationship where it is now the progression of two people together -- not two people coming together. You are sharing the present, and creating a future.

Think about your life. Is every moment exciting? I don't care how much fun you have, at intervals I have no doubt you find yourself bored. Now bring another person into that. There is not really much difference. There will always be down time, it is expected. Don't mistake down time with boredom though, it is a prevalent factor and there are times where relationships do becoming boring, or start to become stale. However, the KEY (what many people miss) is to ensure that this boredom is not destructive; to make it temporary. You both have to cut off the current path and re-direct things.

If something is becoming boring, I doubt that only you feel that way. Now is a perfect time to reflect on the bond you two share. Why are things getting boring? Is it because you are in a bad mood? Is it because the two of you are not doing anything anymore? Is it because you two are spending too much time together? Is it because they have changed from the person you knew them to be?

You must first peg the reason YOU are becoming bored. It is your emotion - therefore your responsibility to understand and dissect.

After you have addressed the source of these feelings, guess what? Yes...yes....yes...my single preached piece of advice - communicate! They are your significant other; and at this point in the relationship (when things are boring) you two should be close enough to grow together, and share the problem solving.

I can't promise that these will work -- they might, or might not. But if the you sincerely want to change the relationships direction, then it won't take much work to figure out how to fix it. It is all about motivation to change. And that motivation is simple to find - all you have to do is cover up the daily tracks and make new ones.

The real problem only comes if, after following this advice, things still feel like an obligation.
(disclaimer: some of these will sound corny)

-Don't just take the common interests you have together and use them as a gauge to how you two "work."

Use them and pursue them.

-Set up a sliding date night. Every week you have a date night, but put it on a rotating schedule so that you are not going out the same night each week. Dates could be anything, but make sure they are not always the same. There is nothing wrong with dinner and a movie, just don't force the two of you through that every week. Scatter Ideas.

-Be spontaneous (easy to say, hard to think of ways) Don't be too spontaneous, because then spontaneity becomes the norm. Examples include - doing whatever comes to me at the spur of the moment. Free up time from your palm pilots and go somewhere you have never been. Get excited and break a routine for a hot minute

-Learn to communicate, about anything! It not only fills dead air, but it can also lead to things you never knew, fun games, or interesting ideas.

-Sit down and think of a hobby that neither of you have ever done but would be interested in doing together. Then go do it! Stick with it. Once you start, you will have another common bond - and one that was generated from the result of your being together. Very powerful!

-Plan mini inexpensive trips to different destinations

-Have a big vacation planned

-Hop in the car and take a road trip. Go anywhere. Or make it crazy and don't decide until you are on the road.

-Obvious one: spice up the bedroom play. Buy lingerie, buy toys, try new things. An amazing woman once told me that I would be surprised how far people are willing to go; they just don't know it yet.

-Join an active social gathering together

-Go out with groups of people

-Make sure that you always maintain interests outside the relationship. Not to be distant, but so you can have "that place" that everyone needs. Time to yourself; sometimes that is all that IS needed.

-Surprise each other with inexpensive but thoughtful gifts.

-Start going to the gym together; getting in shape is awesome, and there is always more motivation to do it when competing with your significant other.

-Start taking any sort of "lessons" together. Dancing, Singing, Martial Arts, Pilates, Yoga, whatever.

-Confront him/her and find out one of their passions; something they like to do, but you never got into. Start doing it with him/her. In return, ask that they start doing something you like to do as well. Example: he likes poetry, but you think it is boring. TAKE HIM to poetry nights. Then have him take you to pottery workshops (because you like pottery, but he hates clay under his nails). By doing this, you are challenging the other person, but also keeping things fresh.

Remember, your significant other is your friend first off. And friends have fun. Through communication, dedication, and a little creativity you would be surprised at fun easy it is to maintain the friendship along with the rest.


now, as for your former boyfriend....just tell Hobbit. He'll go beat him up! :p

But no. It all depends. Maybe he had a dream about you and triggered his curiosity about where you were in life. Maybe he was drunk and got nostalgic. He could have just been thinking about the past and how much of an awesome person you were; wanting to bring you back into (italics)his life.

There are many, many reasons why someone would try to reinitiate an old bond (out of the blue) with another. Just remember that no one is without motive. He has a reason. If it piques your interest to the point of focusing on that, why not ask him? He may just say that he wants to stare at your pictures. Hell, it is possible that he could even want to just tell you that he forgives you for breaking his heart.

What should you do? Talk to him, see whats going on in his life. Find out his intentions, and then you have to decide from there. And if he doesn't want to share his intentions, then I would proceed cautiously

Author:  Bimm3r [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:11 pm ]
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After you have addressed the source of these feelings, guess what? Yes...yes....yes...my single preached piece of advice - communicate! They are your significant other; and at this point in the relationship (when things are boring) you two should be close enough to grow together, and share the problem solving.
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nice repost.. !!

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