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Author:  paxis [ Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:55 am ]
Post subject:  Manipulation? How about this?
A month ago I saw a girl I got immediatly attracted to. We talked and everything, got her number, acted c/f, not needy, etc around her, some kino, etc, it went well.
After the first 2 weeks I started to lose the interest I had and she noticed, so after that she started to have the initiative of talking to me.
I must say I acted kinda AFC (just a little) and said to her about 2/3 times indirectly that I was attracted to her, but there were some things about her I didn't like. She acted self-concious, but everything went well.

However, at the last 2 weeks I don't really know why, but I got the feeling she was trying to manipulate me.

She sent me sms like 2 days apart for no apparent reason. The sms were like "hello, how are you? :)", "I liked to invite you to lunch with me, but you always have a lot of things planned, so I lunched with some colleagues. I can't give you so much trust ;D" or "hey, what are you doing tonight? Are you going to hang around ou will you be at home?".

Everytime I answered she did NOT answered back, which I thought was weird, but I've never asked her why.

I always answered her like 1/2 hours after she sent the sms.

The answers were funny, such as "hey, tonight instead of hanging around with my friends I'm doing yoga...".

From my initiative I invited her to 1 lunch with common friends (because she flakes when I invite her to be alone with me) and she said "oh, thanks, I accept, but I'll go with a group of colleagues. If you wanna come with us you're welcome!", which I replied "thanks, but I'd rather lunch with my friends ;)".


Last sunday we had a conversation in which I told her half serious, half kidding that if she wants to invite me to something then just stand up and do it, but she took it serious, so I replied saying something like "didn't you notice I was mocking you? you're really a lifeless girl! :D", then she answered very well and everything went good, including me playing some c/f like "oh god, don't you see it doesn't matter how hard you try? Do you like to be dumped by me? :D". She engaged it well.


Anyway, do you guys think she's manipulating me? I'm like no more interested in her, just a little bit. And I think I'm keeping her to her toes.


Also, when she sent the sms ""I liked to invite you to lunch with me, but you always have a lot of things planned, so I lunched with some colleagues. I can't give you so much trust ;D", the conversation was:
Me: "oh, what number am I thinking? Just to see if you are right again."
Her: "I say one number and you tell me I'm right and how fantastic I am for guessing right everything about you, yeah, I already know that game kiddo ;)".
Me: "well, it seems you've already figured everything out, you just forgot to answer the question ;)".
Her: "number x"
Me: "you're wrong. try again looser."
Her: "you think I'm here playing lottery :D"
Me: "well, I was trying to find somebody to play lottery with me, but it seems like you just don't fit ;)"

She didn't answer...
Author:  paxis [ Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:42 am ]
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oh btw, she's the type of girl who likes her boyfriends to be submissive.
Her last boyfriend and her had a relationship of 1 year or so and he ALWAYS did things for her, carried her home, picked her up, etc etc.

I need your opinion guys, since I'm having a lot of fun with this, but her friends are my best friends, so it may be some "bad mood" when all of us get together if I continue with this (mocking her when she tries to manipulate me).
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:49 pm ]
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yeah she's the type that's attracted to AFC guys ..... she likes to be treated like a princess.

well guess what ! she isn't a princess.... just keep negging and keep doing push and pull.

be slightly cocky funny and arrogant.

girls like this keep shit testing you until you submit... they don't want a boyfriend they want a dad who does everything for them.
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Everytime I answered she did NOT answered back, which I thought was weird, but I've never asked her why
shit tests ....... you didn't pass but somehow you are still in the game ... which proves she likes submissive males. Like you said you made some AFC actions and she's still attracted.

don't let her get on top of you.... after a while you find out girls like this aren't any good. she sounds like a cling-on
Author:  paxis [ Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:25 pm ]
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Well, just so you know, my answers to her shit-tests were full of sarcasm.
For example, when I told her I was doing yoga instead of hanging around with my friends (I sent this sms 2 am, which means I was doing anything but yoga), I was with my friends. I was being sarcastic, since she asked if I was relaxing...

I've always answered her 2 or 3 hours after she sent the sms, so I don't think this is AFC, what I think it is really AFC was when I told her indirectly I was kinda attracted.

Anyway, I've never treated her like a princess, instead of it I always treated her with arrogance.
An example of one of the sms I sent her: "I made you open your phone for no reason, you gotta control better your desire of talking to me.".


Anyway, I have one doubt.
The sms she sent me for no apparent reason, such as "hello, how are you? :)" how would you answer?
Why's that a shit test?
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:25 pm ]
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ok i picked some stuff from your post ...... your second reply tells more.

yeah well '' hello how are you doing''

well .... this is my opninion ... im quitte radical.

i would say something like '' im -fucking- good '' '' im fucking bussy'' or something like that .
'' why do you ask ... you want your share '' ?
'' im fucking horny.. better if you not interrupt me right now '' - this one is radical .. but if she replies you know she wanna fuck.
'' im under the shower right now, text/call me later ''
'' im bussy ... im putting peanut butter on my sandwich without a knife '' this sounds stupid but most people think WTF .... nobody says stuff like this

just make sure to say somethig like that shower thing... that way you make her invest , just don't text her - let her take the lead unless you got something really cool to say.

i always say damaging things to new people ... i guess im a bit damaged myself, sarcasm amuses me.
Author:  paxis [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:48 pm ]
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Well, 2 days ago I texted her.
Me: "hi, I'm travelling and I passed x city and remembered you, so hi! Now get away please :)"
Her: "*her sms was about what she does in the summer at that city, etc, etc, etc, just bullshit.*"
Me: "did I ask you something?"
Her: "ok, i'm sorry."

Yesterday she lunched at my university, I said hi and she was REALLY upset, like, VERY mad.
I sent her a sms "you must be feeling sad because the sexiest man of my university isn't lunching with you ;)". She looked at me 2 times with an angry face.

An hour later she sent me a sms telling me she was very angry, because of what I said the day before.
She said I'm always mocking her, always criticizing her, being cold, and whatever. Moreover, she said I must not know wether I like her or not, and she feels the same way.

Anyway, today we talked (face to face), and one of the things I told her was "currently I'm talking with 3 girls. they are fantastic and very interesting. However, one of them, which isn't better in anything than the other 2, is... different. She isn't over the top, but she's my favorite. What I like about her is what I don't like. She is you."

After this, she said "sometime ago I met someone. I sometimes like him, but the other I hate him, because he gets me angry because of what he says, his attitudes. He's you."

I got confused, really.
But I know some things. She got jealous when I said I was going to lunch with a friend of mine, and most importantly, she knows I'm not needy.
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:21 pm ]
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if you go nice now it will be instant succes :P .... i guarantee you

just invite her or something ... she agree ... il bet you kan kiss close easily

o yeah she is still a cling-on... probably jealous little critter
Author:  paxis [ Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:12 pm ]
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if you go nice now it will be instant succes :P .... i guarantee you

just invite her or something ... she agree ... il bet you kan kiss close easily

o yeah she is still a cling-on... probably jealous little critter
I've got a few more things to say.
Yesterday I had to go somewhere to have financial help from the government for my studies (I'm sorry about my english and for not knowing the right "words" for this, but it's not my first language, but I hope you understand!). I said I didn't know very well the closest route to there. She said immediatly "oh, you're silly. I'm going with you.".
Well, she gave me a lot of indicators of interest. ALWAYS playing with her hair, smiling a lot when she talked to me, she mocked me a lot (things like, I say "oh dear, this car looks like a hearse!" and she said "see? what if I had that car? You are always criticizing!", but kidding. After that, I said "I love this 2 cars". Her "I hate them!").
One thing I noticed was when we were talking face to face, her feet were always pointed to me, at least one of them. She was playing with her hair like for the all freakin' time.

But when I was going to lunch with a friend of mine, we said goodbye and etc.
A couple of seconds after that, I yelled "hey!", she turned to me smiling and playing with her hair, and I asked her "what would you do if a stranger kissed you?". She said "I'd get mad". Smiling.
Then, I asked "and what if I kissed you?".
Her answer was: "I'd get mad". But here she got kinda sad and said "that's this kind of things I said to you I don't like...."
I smiled and then said goodbye.

1 hour after that she sent me a sms "your courage is admirable, but I kinda freaked out when you said that. I thought our previous conversation made your understand that I don't want to take advantage of you..."


So, I'm confused.
Either she likes me, but there is little to no comfort (otherwise she wouldn't get all mad, and she wouldn't be with me for her initiative yesterday), or... I don't know.

What do you think?
Author:  Lodewijkp [ Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:31 pm ]
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lol believe me ... she sending you a message is tottaly ultra IOI

she said she didn't like if you kissed her .. she would get mad.

later on she replied she freaked out

what she basically saying =

i don't want to look like a slut and im uncomfortable so il repeat, but i don't mean it and im having doubts so i let you know.

she is disqualify you while giving you a rope to hang on.

if girls switch from mindset over a particualr thing you can bet she's interested.

every girl would freak out if you asked that ... every girl would say that - that's why i kiss before i ask.
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'' freaked out ''
meaning it's a huge point... normal people would laugh and don't give a shit.
she was shocked , next time you can K close her when the time is right.

there is no comfort because you don't invest back in the right way and you keep disqualifying her. stop disqualifying her , do some push- pull instead of pull push
Author:  paxis [ Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:42 pm ]
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Yesterday I acted very nice. Still come c/f, but nice. No disqualifying.

From what you've said, I think there should be no problem if I text her now and then (not everyday, of course).
Thanks dude :D
Author:  paxis [ Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:30 pm ]
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Fuck, she's the most flaky girl I've known.
Author:  paxis [ Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:36 pm ]
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6th december I acted intentionally firstly c/f and then needy.
After that we didn't talk or see each other for about 1 week.
Yesterday she sent me a sms saying "everytime I see American Idol I always imagine you with your superstar look singing and playing guitar xD".
I just answered "a compliment : )*".

She sent me the sms for no reason, I mean, she probably wanted to reconnect, I don't know, and I've answered that way because I kinda moved on.

What do you guys think?
I'm moving on, dating other girls, etc and I have no intention of getting back to her, but do you think she's like "crawling" back?
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